Motors

[kendallcschm]

hey all.. i have had a Radline in my crawler/mud bogger ... i find that its virtually powerless.. i want a motor i can kick some real a** with.. i need a motor that has plenty of torque, allows me to crawl, isn't a servo, cheap, and fits in easy.. im also looking for very little modification to my truck... just an awesome engine... any suggestions? i would like to buy it at a hobby shop..

[c1v1c]

IMO, you won't find a torquey enough 130/180 motor size to be able to crawl...

If you wanna find a good crawling motor I'd suggest the tamiya universal gearbox which you might be able to find in your lhs.

Make some search on it, Texan, fieldfairy2 and I have it. Trust me, you won't be disappointed.

Another thing you could do is to get a 1:10th scale servo and use a huge spur gear on the servo so you'll get a decent speed rate for a crawler/mudder.

[XMDrifter]

he said he didn't want a servo, so if you don't want a servo, then too bad. you're not going to find the motor you'll need.

[c1v1c]

that is why I also gave him the other option which was the tamiya universal gearbox. ;D

But I do somewhat agree with you XMDrifter, most of the crawlers have a servo...

[kendallcschm]

i might do this:
http://www.xmodsforum.co.uk/showthre...+gearing+setup

it seems a bit easier.. and he gets alot of torque.. see.. with my monster truck tires my truck hardly moves.. and can't reverse.. so im looking for enough power to get it to move right.. do you think a kenex servo might do the trick?? one of these:
http://www.xmodsinternational.com/Xm...vo%20Motor.htm

or would that not have enough power.. cause i got a stage II motor yesterday and it sux at propelling my truck.. my truck hardly goes anywhere..

[bigez]

whell if you look at a mudder they have to go very fast so they can gluild over the mud so what i would do is get a spider and get a 180 motor but if you go to your hobby shop ask them if they have any 180 motors they should have some if they have a heil setcion

[kendallcschm]

Originally Posted by bigez

whell if you look at a mudder they have to go very fast so they can gluild over the mud so what i would do is get a spider and get a 180 motor but if you go to your hobby shop ask them if they have any 180 motors they should have some if they have a heil setcion

... hmm.. but the servo i posted won't work? what about just dropping in Neo mags??

[zippo855]

the motor you posted doesnt have much power. mattdog on xmd put 1 in each wheel hub, but it didn't work out. servos get their power from small motors by multiple gear reduction.
neos help. drop them in a stage 1 or a low rpm radline motor for the best results.

[amorton94]

The servo motor you posted is 1/4 the size of a 130 motor. I have a 180 in one of my trucks with some big custom tires on it, and it moves alright and has to good torque. Tamiya Gearboxes are hard to mount, or at least I've found they are. If you don't want a servo, take a cheap one apart and make a custom gearbox, I'm doing that right now. And if nothing else, mod your motor pod to fit a 370 motor in it, that I am also doing. Maybe I should make a thread? But so you want a mudder or a crawler? If you go with the 370 motor you could use a stock MRC motor, they got some decent speed and alot of torque, more than you'll ever get out of a 130 or 180 sized motor. If you make a custom gearbox, you can make it to fit a Micro-T brushless motor, so you get some speed and torque. If you need some help, hit me up. I might be able to help a little.

[c1v1c]

Crawling and mudding will need two different setup, as said above, you'll need to tell us what you really want.

IMO if you could get your hands on that K-nex gears, you should go for it. Since it has pretty good torque and a decent speed and for the most essential part, it has a lower COG than any tamiya gearbox/huge motor/servos.

[kendallcschm]

i would really like a crawler with a good amount of speed... i don't want to die before my truck actually gets to driving to me.. i think i would like to got with a tamyia gear box but i need something cheap.. i think the best solution might be to through neomags in a stage 2 xmod motor.. or the high toque radline i got..

[c1v1c]

Originally Posted by kendallcschm

i would really like a crawler with a good amount of speed... i don't want to die before my truck actually gets to driving to me.. i think i would like to got with a tamyia gear box but i need something cheap.. i think the best solution might be to through neomags in a stage 2 xmod motor.. or the high toque radline i got..

a tamiya gearbox vs a stage2 with neo mags are 2 different things.

Plus, the tamiya universal gearbox barely cost 9 bucks.

[kendallcschm]

really?? do i need to cut the cradle? what do i have to do for the universal gearbox?

[c1v1c]

Originally Posted by kendallcschm

really?? do i need to cut the cradle? what do i have to do for the universal gearbox?

You have to search the forum.

look for texan's s10 thread, fieldfairy2's and mine.

EDIT: You can find it online or look in your lhs.

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXSR16&P=ML

[kendallcschm]

Originally Posted by c1v1c

You have to search the forum.

look for texan's s10 thread, fieldfairy2's and mine.

EDIT: You can find it online or look in your lhs.

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXSR16&P=ML

wouldn't the kenex stuff do the same thing?? except a little more complicated..

[amorton94]

For me, looking at pics of their setup didn't help at all. I found it to be a pita to get it mounted, but I never got it mounted. Now it's sitting in pieces on my desk...

[kendallcschm]

Originally Posted by amorton94

For me, looking at pics of their setup didn't help at all. I found it to be a pita to get it mounted, but I never got it mounted. Now it's sitting in pieces on my desk...

lol.. then ill stop searching.. i think i might go with the kenex idea.. any one got any idea on how to do it without killing a motor?

it seems to complicated though.. anything less complicated?? i think the least complicated is a low RPM motor with neomags..

[amorton94]

I say sell all your xmods and buy a Nikko. Is that to complicated? No one said any of this was going to be easy...

[c1v1c]

Well then I guess you should go with a low rpm motor and neo mags! ...

[amorton94]

Originally Posted by c1v1c

Well then I guess you should go with a low rpm motor and neo mags! ...

Nah, that's to complicated. He'd have to actually take a motor apart!