The random car-talk thread.

[texan_idiot25]

I am only a fan of two Priuses (Prii?), and that's the one I've dubbed black-metal-prius, as he rolls by blaring metal music, and the car is black... And "A-Strolling-Player" of Jalopnik... Because he took it drag racing during the 24 hours of Lemons/B.A.B.E. Rally face off.

But, go on.

[SUPERSHELBY]

alrighty...

Roses are red
Violets are blue
Mustangs have street cred
But prius's are poo

[KITT222]

I am not a fan of any Prius. The new Prius looks SUPER UGLY. The only good thing about it is the lack of drag. If you turn it into a drag racer you wouldn't have to do anything for the aerodynamics.

[texan_idiot25]

There is one guy who gutted a Honda Insight, and dropped in a turbo K motor. Taking advantage of the Insight's aerodynamic body.

[winner]

Originally Posted by texan_idiot25

There is one guy who gutted a Honda Insight, and dropped in a turbo K motor. Taking advantage of the Insight's aerodynamic body.

wow, thats beastly! lol i wanna make a drag geo metro, put a nice chevy ls8 in it

lol edit texan was right i was tired and stupied, lol i ment ls9 my bad, imma d/a lol

[texan_idiot25]

Ls1 Ls 2 Ls3 Ls 7 Ls9 lsa?

[texan_idiot25]

How is it a luxury muscle? It's interior is no better than a PT Cruiser. The Mustang and Camaro exceed the SRT8, in their mild performance models, in every way. "Luxury" included. Hell, Dodge even manages to ruin the transission, which is identical to the Camaro. It goes from a solid, notchy, and short throwing beast from the Camaro to yet another sloppy, long throwing, numb shifting Chrysler product. How they managed to mess up the Tremec's shifter is beyond me. Not to mention they sold the SRT8, auto only at first. That's BLASPHEMY!

[NE10GT]

Originally Posted by texan_idiot25

How is it a luxury muscle? It's interior is no better than a PT Cruiser. The Mustang and Camaro exceed the SRT8, in their mild performance models, in every way. "Luxury" included. Hell, Dodge even manages to ruin the transission, which is identical to the Camaro. It goes from a solid, notchy, and short throwing beast from the Camaro to yet another sloppy, long throwing, numb shifting Chrysler product. How they managed to mess up the Tremec's shifter is beyond me. Not to mention they sold the SRT8, auto only at first. That's BLASPHEMY!

That's how I've seen it classified, but you're right perhaps that only applied to the older model... before it was bastardized into an automatic... sorry I suppose I misspoke :P I withdraw my 2 cents. but however I do replace it with the fact that a 6.1 liter hemi should not be argued with lol.

[texan_idiot25]

I've never seen it as luxury muscle. It's just expensive, and grossly over weight. That Hemi can't run when it's dragging so much lard!

On a side note, the mustang returns to nascar in the form of awkward looking stickers!

[NE10GT]

Meh, maybe it's just the source's choice to give it that distinction... or perhaps it has something to do with production numbers... at any rate... as much as I like the challenger, it does have a lot of downfalls that need addressing, thanks for pointing that out and bursting my bubble lol... although I could probably argue against this "nu-muscle" thing they've been doing anyways

Edit: You think the stickers are the only thing on that that looks awkward? lol

[texan_idiot25]

Feel free to argue your points, so long as it has some reason to it. Not the "OMFG VTECH Y0" sort of stuff.

Rant on "Nu Muscle" if you please.

[NE10GT]

Personally I think many of the things about "Nu-muscle" just don't strike me as right. The biggest of which being the 4 door charger... WTF happened there... did they put Opie on that project or something? Second... the thing I like about old muscle, such as my dad's '66 Pontiac Catalina 2+2, is looking under the hood, and seeing how basic it is in comparison to say a 2010 Mustang or 2009 Challenger, the fact that an engine that simple can put out so much power has always been the turn on for me.

[jimmythekid1]

Pontiac G8 is closer to luxury muscle.

[texan_idiot25]

I like you kid, you know that?

While the good old dirt simplicity cannot be brought back (Blame emissions and safety regulations), I do dig the radical stylings of the Camaro, Mustang, and even the very fat looking Challenger (it's just the bitch of the 3, sadly). I agree, the Charger name plate could have been done different (Coronet anyone?), but to some extent, at least in SRT8 trim, it did do the muscle car idea pretty proud.

Once subtle family sedans, stuffed with high powered V8s, and setup to go fast.

Oh, and viva la simplistic horse power! Stock, my truck had 260hp and 355 ft lb of torque. That's before the cam, and headers, and carb work.

[NE10GT]

Ummm thanks? I think that was directed at me lol. But... yeah... **** emmissions standards. But still in agreement I gotta say, the styling is intensely well done, and sticks very well to it's historical counter part. Especially the camaro. I feel like the front end of the new challenger might have been a little bulkier then it's classic form though.

[texan_idiot25]

there is a limit on what STREET LEGAL cars can have... anything STREET legal has to be under 400hp why do you think the charger, challenger mustang and the camaro are all 387 and under! dumb s**t

Idiot of the day goes to XMS NOOB 928 Shifty.

Find me the US law that states for a vehicle to be street legal it has to be under 400 hp. Besides ignoring the muscle car era where high-compression V8s with more liters than coke bottles in a fridge were commonly trying to plant 300-500 hp through bias-ply tires...

How come the Shelby GT500 is a 500+ HP car? What about the 505 HP Z06, or the 650 HP ZR1? What about the 550 HP Cadillac CTS V, or the 420 HP Camaro SS? What about the 640 hp LP640? The 600 hp Zonda? ****, the 1001 HP Veyron? The 420hp SRT8s? 500 hp Benz's. The 435 G8 GXP. The near 400 HP Evo 10 (in it's wildest trim). 600-700 HP Bently?

These are all factory cars with over 500 hp. There is no limit on horse power in the US. This is not the UK where custom built cars have to be approved by the transit authority. The US is the home of the "door slammers" class in drag racing where a car can have as much power as it wants as long as it can plant it on a certain size tire and still be able to pass inspection. NRE is a common producer of streetable 2000 hp twin turbo V8 classics. Not to mention the array of street legal Supras with 4 digit horse power numbers.

Before your fresh noob *** opens your mouth, go get your facts straight, mkay.



And none of this cop-out 'lets agree to disagree', as there are facts and ignorant lies. The latter needing to be debated.

[Blade.]

Originally Posted by texan_idiot25

Idiot of the day goes to XMS NOOB 928 Shifty.

Find me the US law that states for a vehicle to be street legal it has to be under 400 hp. Besides ignoring the muscle car era where high-compression V8s with more liters than coke bottles in a fridge were commonly trying to plant 300-500 hp through bias-ply tires...

How come the Shelby GT500 is a 500+ HP car? What about the 505 HP Z06, or the 650 HP ZR1? What about the 550 HP Cadillac CTS V, or the 420 HP Camaro SS? What about the 640 hp LP640? The 600 hp Zonda? ****, the 1001 HP Veyron? The 420hp SRT8s? 500 hp Benz's. The 435 G8 GXP. The near 400 HP Evo 10 (in it's wildest trim). 600-700 HP Bently?

These are all factory cars with over 500 hp. There is no limit on horse power in the US. This is not the UK where custom built cars have to be approved by the transit authority. The US is the home of the "door slammers" class in drag racing where a car can have as much power as it wants as long as it can plant it on a certain size tire and still be able to pass inspection. NRE is a common producer of streetable 2000 hp twin turbo V8 classics. Not to mention the array of street legal Supras with 4 digit horse power numbers.

Before your fresh noob *** opens your mouth, go get your facts straight, mkay.



And none of this cop-out 'lets agree to disagree', as there are facts and ignorant lies. The latter needing to be debated.

Hahahaha +1 Tex! That kid has no idea on what he is talking about.

I'll also bring in some stuff also, back and I mean waaaaay back. Like say the golden ages of the muscle cars, with the 10.5:1 / 11:1 compression ratios, those old big block chevs', rust bucket fords, and track slaughtering mopars, rolling the streets some of those had 400+ hp STOCK from the factory. They ran on LEADED fuel, on which my father used to chew on when he was in his crib as a baby!(Lead based paint that is!)

GET YOUR FACTS AND LEARN CARS!

Blade.

[texan_idiot25]

Amen for the lead-burning-polar-bear-annihilators

[suicide_star]

Ok. This is how you get your car street legal in the Louisiana, modified or not. "Blinkers"-Check "Headlights"-Check "Brake Lights"-Check "Reverse Lights"-Check "Windshield Wipers"-Check "Horn"-Check "Gas Cap"-Check...ZomG...I have an inspection sticker now! Yay.

[texan_idiot25]

Besides the technology being very expensive, (which is why the EV1 was a LEASED experiment, they were far too expensive for production) it is also creating waste, just at another source. In theory to support a massive number of plug in cars (Hybrid, Series, or purely EV) the electrical infrastructure has to be beefed up as well. This means current coal burning plants will also increase out put. Oh noes, more coal belching... But of course many states are also still resistant to nuclear energy (clean, very efficient/powerful) so it's a slow going situation there.

The Volt works just like a Diesel/Electric train. The IC Engine is only there to charge the batteries. There is no turbo, there is no need. This 1.4 or what ever liter motor's only duty is to power a generator, at no point will it power the wheels directly. What does this mean? Well, as you know gas motors are only effective at a certain RPM range. This includes power, torque, as well as MPG. But, by nature of a normal transmission, your motor is rarely in this ideal range for very long, thus lots of efficiency lost. This is why CVT's have become popular, it keeps the motor at a set RPM where it's most effective, and adjusts the gearing to put that power to the wheels.

But, when you remove that link between the engine and the wheels, you solve all issues of running the gas motor outside it's optimum range. That's what makes the Volt special, and technically not a Hybrid, as it does not use the gas motor for propulsion.

Hydrogen suffers from price, packaging space, and safety at the moment. But thankfully hydrogen will burn in an internal combustion engine, so we get to keep our vroom vroom. But, another problem is electricity as it takes a lot of electricity to extract the hydrogen gas in electrolysis.