Is Ford going out of business?

[DRFTKO]

Originally Posted by Flat 4 Racing

Any photos? I'd love to see it!



You may feel otherwise after you've had a $1690 center differential replaced (poorly shimmed pinion bearing), $900 brake caliper, and $496 (2 rotors) replaced, and a motor that doesn't like to turn over if it's colder than 30 degrees outside. All were covered under warranty, but nonetheless, I have a Camaro with 175,000 miles on it that started in -30 below in Milwaukee, Wisconsin without nary a cough.

Where's the "Subaru reliability?" I NEVER had ANY problems with my domestics until they've had over 100,000 miles on them, save for my Camaro when I had to get an optispark (ignition, $800) replaced at 62,000 miles.

For the record, I don't, and have never taken the STi to the track, or have really beaten the heck out of it. That doesn't go to say I haven't mashed the throttle a few times.

you have never owned a Ford then

[adamn84]

Originally Posted by DRFTKO

you have never owned a Ford then

My last car was a '98 Ford Escort, the only mechanical problem I had with it was a serpentine (sp) belt that broke. When I sold it, it was running strong with nearly 130k miles. Not bad for a car that never had a tune up, and rarely had an oil change or a tank of name brand gas.

My dad had a '92 Lincoln Continental, with the 3.8 v6 and the 4speed auto (arguably fords worst engine and tranny in terms of durability and reliability). The thing ran great for 220k miles with very minor problems, we sold it because the front suspension blew up and cost more to replace then the car was worth.

As for Ford going out of business, if it gets to that point, the government will step in and help like they did with chrysler in the '80's.

[Flat 4 Racing]

Originally Posted by DRFTKO

you have never owned a Ford then

I've known a lot of people who own/have owned Mustangs and other Ford products and have never had any problems with them.

[Nissanshift350]

i have a 1967 Mercury Cougar (pretty much a ford mustang) with 90k original miles on and it and she still runs fine after 40 years. i also have a 72 pinto station wagon and thats the best little work car ive ever owned.

[Sweed]

Originally Posted by a****84

As for Ford going out of business, if it gets to that point, the government will step in and help like they did with chrysler in the '80's.

Not the US government. Japanese government has though...

I read an article, the Japs are limiting the sales of the American cars, so that the goverment doesn't limit or tax japan more to save the American car copanies. I don't remember the magazine, but I'll post it later..

Kinda funny that the japanese are limiting thier own sales to keep the taxes from going up? Toyota has plants in America, and still had to import cars to keep up with the demand. Then HQ in Japan told them they had to stop selling less..

Japan doesn't want American cars to die off.. But if they do, Jap cars will have a (bigger) monopoly on the car world..

[Numbchux]

Originally Posted by Flat 4 Racing

Any photos? I'd love to see it!

you have, the MNSubaru ice race photo thread that you resurrected.

as to subaru reliability. I don't know wtf you've been doing. but I have never heard of anyone replacing such a laundry list of parts. I've had 2 different lifted subarus, driving them over rocks and through the mud (a search for threads in this forum started by me will turn up dozens of pics). my mom's legacy was at a healthy 235k miles on it with nothing wrong but rust. my loyale had 180k miles when I pulled the motor, and put it into one of the lifted subarus (which spun a bearing after being overheated dozens of times, and run pretty low on oil etc. at 220k miles), and replaced it with the one from the legacy. my tranny came out of it's original car with 160k miles, and has been in 2 others between then and now, still running like a top. ditto the matching rear LSD.

try some 5w-30 oil and a decent battery. we saw 40 below (no, not including the windchill) for a few nights this winter, and every morning, I went out and started it up, no block heater, no battery heater, no garage.

[DRFTKO]

Originally Posted by Flat 4 Racing

I've known a lot of people who own/have owned Mustangs and other Ford products and have never had any problems with them.

hmmm...I guess none of them drove a '98 Mercury Mistake (Mystique) either. My ex-girlfriend had one and it was an all-around piece of s@#$, everyone I have ever talked to that has owned one or knows someone that owns one has had nothing but problems.

[atruebudfan]

Originally Posted by Sweed

Not the US government. Japanese government has though...

I read an article, the Japs are limiting the sales of the American cars, so that the goverment doesn't limit or tax japan more to save the American car copanies. I don't remember the magazine, but I'll post it later..

Kinda funny that the japanese are limiting thier own sales to keep the taxes from going up? Toyota has plants in America, and still had to import cars to keep up with the demand. Then HQ in Japan told them they had to stop selling less..

Japan doesn't want American cars to die off.. But if they do, Jap cars will have a (bigger) monopoly on the car world..

Well GM has about 20 Plants in the US and Toyota has about 5, i think they need to import.
And your wrong, Toyota would love nothing more then to see all of the US car companies die out, what would make them the richest company in the world. There like the 12th as it is i think.
And yes the taxing is high on importanted cars, but its completely right. A car produced in the US costs a lot more then one produce out side of the country. That's why the Government taxes imported cars. If they didn't the cars made out side of the US would be hundreds of dollars cheaper.
This is a reason GM now has plants in Canada and Mexico making cars for the US.

[Sqwerchy]

OK I just bought 2 new 2007 Ford Focus SES, One Blue with a sunroof and one black no sunroof.

I did see on the news here in Chattanooga TN that Ford stated if they do not get back in the black by 2009 they will go out of business.

I have NEVER liked Fords, EVER! BUT having said that I have owned a few in the past. In fact I traded a 1998 Ford Taurus for the Black Focus. I LOVE my Focuses! I had to replace the heads on the Taurus 3X! And I replaced the radiator, lifters, FUL exhaust, torque converter, heater core and a NUMBER of belts and hoses!

[jimmythekid1]

Originally Posted by Sqwerchy

OK I just bought 2 new 2007 Ford Focus SES, One Blue with a sunroof and one black no sunroof.

I did see on the news here in Chattanooga TN that Ford stated if they do not get back in the black by 2009 they will go out of business.

I have NEVER liked Fords, EVER! BUT having said that I have owned a few in the past. In fact I traded a 1998 Ford Taurus for the Black Focus. I LOVE my Focuses! I had to replace the heads on the Taurus 3X! And I replaced the radiator, lifters, FUL exhaust, torque converter, heater core and a NUMBER of belts and hoses!

i can't speak for the 2007 but at my shop we work on a whole fleet of I think like 04 or 05 for a local copy machine repair company and they are really good cars. The one problems I have seen is the water inlet housing and the connectors at the ignition coils, but both are cheap easy fixes.

[Flat 4 Racing]

Originally Posted by Sqwerchy

OK I just bought 2 new 2007 Ford Focus SES, One Blue with a sunroof and one black no sunroof.

I did see on the news here in Chattanooga TN that Ford stated if they do not get back in the black by 2009 they will go out of business.

I have NEVER liked Fords, EVER! BUT having said that I have owned a few in the past. In fact I traded a 1998 Ford Taurus for the Black Focus. I LOVE my Focuses! I had to replace the heads on the Taurus 3X! And I replaced the radiator, lifters, FUL exhaust, torque converter, heater core and a NUMBER of belts and hoses!

Doesn't sound like an "all Ford" problem. It just sounds like your personal car. You got a lemon, dude. It happens. I know people who have gotten lemon Toyota Camrys, and supposedly they're supposed to be the most reliable vehicle built....

[Numbchux]

Thought I'd share our Ford situation with you guys...

My Aunt had a 2005 Ford Taurus. she passed away last summer, and we have been trying to sell this car ever since. it's a $22k+ car new, and it now has 13k miles on it.....and has been on the market for $10,500 for months (started at 13k). That's right, less than half what it would cost new, and we have had ONE person even call about it!!!!

[Flat 4 Racing]

Originally Posted by Numbchux

Thought I'd share our Ford situation with you guys...

My Aunt had a 2005 Ford Taurus. she passed away last summer, and we have been trying to sell this car ever since. it's a $22k+ car new, and it now has 13k miles on it.....and has been on the market for $10,500 for months (started at 13k). That's right, less than half what it would cost new, and we have had ONE person even call about it!!!!

Dude, consider the source of the car. It's a freakin' Taurus!

[Numbchux]

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