Any reason to use AtomicWire and Dean plugs?

[S2k Racer]

I'm thinking of getting some AtomicWire and Dean plugs for my Gen1 and Evo but I'm wondering how they're better than the stock Gen1 Wires/Plugs.

I'm putting a Z board in my Evo and I'm going to solder motor plugs onto it, but I'm wondering if I should use Gen1 wires/plugs or get some AtomicWires and Dean plugs, if I do I'd probably get another set and put those in my Gen1 as well.

Anyone know anything about this?

Thanks, S2kR

http://www.atomicmods.com/Products/D...et__10104.aspx
http://www.atomicmods.com/Products/A...re__10105.aspx

[zippo855]

i order the wire 6 foot at a time. the superflex 18 guage wire is awesome. i dont use anything else now. easy solderability, really flexible, low resistance.
as for the deans, they are a good upgrade. wheter micro deans in an xmod, to ultra deans in bigger scales. minimal power loss at connector. and solid connection.
in my opinion, use it and you wont like anything else, trust me

[Kaze]

its as Zippo said, the plugs and large gauge wires offer less resistance which means more power throughout the board. I personally use 20gage because it fits better but even 18 gauge in either gen on stock power runs smoother and responds better power wise, if you're a really sensitive RC driver you'll feel the difference easy.

[S2k Racer]

If this wire reduces resistance should I be worried about the FETs?
If I used this wire from Batteries to board wouldn't this be giving the board more power and therefore needing more FET? or is the difference not that big?

[zippo855]

no need to worry about fets. they will be fine. i have noticed less jitter from the steering by powering the board with better wire. as its not having the power loss when your getting on the throttle. stock wires are too restrictive in my opinion. stock wires dont allow allow enough power to the board when getting on the throttle. should make for smoother acceleration on the track and better driffting whilr messing around off track. does for me anyway.

[bondo]

Originally Posted by S2k Racer

If this wire reduces resistance should I be worried about the FETs?
If I used this wire from Batteries to board wouldn't this be giving the board more power and therefore needing more FET? or is the difference not that big?

7.4v is 7.4v no matter how much or little resistance there is.
anything over 7.4v and you run the risk of burning up the diodes on the board not the fets.
excessive motor draw is what will burn your fets so unless your running a hotter then stock motor,your fets will be fine.

[S2k Racer]

Ok, thanks all, I know you're all going to say like I should search for it, but I have searched for it and I'm having trouble finding the answer to a question about Neo Mags.
I hear they increase motor torque, but I'm wondering if anyone has a simple explanation of how magnets work in motors, I'm also wondering if Neo magnets will keep the motor cooler or make it run hotter.

Thanks, S2kR

[Donziikid]

I hear they increase motor torque, but I'm wondering if anyone has a simple explanation of how magnets work in motors

Without the magnets the motor wouldn't work at all. A DC electric motor is all about magnetism: the static field magnet of the magnets themselves on the outside wall of the can and the electromagnet spinning inside of these field magnets (the armature). Due to the nature of magnets we know that opposites (positive and negative) will attract and likes (pos. & pos. or neg. & neg.) repel. Inside an electric motor these attracting and repelling forces will cause the armature to spin.

When electricity flows through the coils of wire we have wrapped around each armature pole that pole will become magnetized. This magnetized wire will now repel from the corresponding magnet on the outside wall of the can causing the armature to spin. Since there are three poles on each of our armatures this happens in a very rapid succession causing the armature to spin as long as a current is provided.

Does that provide enough explanation?

I'm also wondering if Neo magnets will keep the motor cooler or make it run hotter.

Theoretically there would be an increase in heat since the neodymium magnets offer more resistance. However, due to the application they are used in, you shouldn't notice this heat increase because it is very, very minimal. Probably not even enough of a heat change for you to even able to detect by human touch.

Cheers,
Kyle.

[S2k Racer]

Ah, ok. Now I need to decided whether or not to bother getting them for the X-Speeds I'm getting.

[Donziikid]

What will be the purpose of these X-Speeds? Many drifters swear by neodymiums but since they offer more resistance to the armature they're not often recommended for "high speed" use or "track" use. But, it always boils down to personal preference. You could always order one set (they're only $5.99 at AtomicMods, maybe cheaper other places) and see how you like them in one motor and later on down the road order a second or third set (not sure how many X-Speeds you are getting) if you like the feel of them with neo. magnets over stock magnets.

Cheers,
Kyle.

[S2k Racer]

I'm getting 1 for my drift gen1 and 1 for my "race" Evo and 1 for my MA10 which I actually am still waiting on.

well I guess I'll ask the guys over at Atomicmods if they would install a set in one for the Gen1, along with a 9tooth pinion for free/as part of the motor/magnet cost.

[Action B]

Originally Posted by Donziikid

What will be the purpose of these X-Speeds? Many drifters swear by neodymiums but since they offer more resistance to the armature they're not often recommended for "high speed" use or "track" use. But, it always boils down to personal preference. You could always order one set (they're only $5.99 at AtomicMods, maybe cheaper other places) and see how you like them in one motor and later on down the road order a second or third set (not sure how many X-Speeds you are getting) if you like the feel of them with neo. magnets over stock magnets.

Cheers,
Kyle.

I might be wrong but I think my t2 has neodymiums stock. Its magnets are about 3x the strength of my other motors. It maintains a pretty high speed.

[Donziikid]

You are right, the Atomic T2 comes standard with neodymium magnets.

I suppose what I was trying to say was that people can stand on either side of the fence for this one. Some motor builders may want to use neo. magnets in all of their motors because it offers more low end torque to get off the line, but they also offer more opposing-magnetism to get the armature to spin even faster. Theoretically, though, I feel that an ferrite magnet will offer less resistance from the magnetism allowing the armature to spin faster when wound with a low enough turn count at a perfect pattern. However, off the throttle, your motor will stop/motor brake that much faster with neodymium magnets than a motor using regular ferrite magnets. I think it all just comes down to personal preference and how/where you drive your RC.

Cheers,
Kyle.

[Action B]

Originally Posted by Donziikid

You are right, the Atomic T2 comes standard with neodymium magnets.

I suppose what I was trying to say was that people can stand on either side of the fence for this one. Some motor builders may want to use neo. magnets in all of their motors because it offers more low end torque to get off the line, but they also offer more opposing-magnetism to get the armature to spin even faster. Theoretically, though, I feel that an ferrite magnet will offer less resistance from the magnetism allowing the armature to spin faster when wound with a low enough turn count at a perfect pattern. However, off the throttle, your motor will stop/motor brake that much faster with neodymium magnets than a motor using regular ferrite magnets. I think it all just comes down to personal preference and how/where you drive your RC.

Cheers,
Kyle.

Its been my dream to have a motor with the torque like a t2 that didnt drag off throttle. I guess this will never happen lol.

[merc3des]

Neo mags are definitely something that can prove useful in a drifter. More torque/acceleration helps you transition, drift longer, and do tighter drifting obstacles.

As for wire, I know its been answered, but I prefer deans 20 gauge wet noodle, it flexes to shape, high quality, and really easy to work with. You can clearly notice a difference in responsiveness and consistency with new wires.