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Old 12-28-2008, 01:19 PM
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Default locked rear dif. AND awd?

i understand the use of the locked rear diff.....and the use of the awd upgrade....but can you use both 2gether? XI lock rear diff and RS awd?
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Old 12-28-2008, 01:22 PM
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Yes. However, your steering radius will sharply increase with a locked differential. Especially a front locked differential.
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Old 12-28-2008, 02:01 PM
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Yes. However, your steering radius will sharply increase with a locked differential. Especially a front locked differential.
not to be mean or anything but donzii wouldn't it decrease not increase?
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not to be mean or anything but donzii wouldn't it decrease not increase?
To my understanding, when locking a differential, your steering radius will increase, not decrease.
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Old 12-28-2008, 02:33 PM
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radius is distance. meaning the turning circle's gonna be bigger with the locked diff. decreased radius means that the turn is tighter
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Old 12-28-2008, 02:39 PM
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so a locked REAR dif with awd would be great for drag???

COULD a locked rear dif with awd be good for drift as well?

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Old 12-28-2008, 10:40 PM
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The only time I've seen locked Diffs used it for Drifting.
Yes, I still have a locked front. :P
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If you're going to drift with it, lock the rear only.

I've got locked front and rear diffs, but that's on my AWD truck with a slower but torquier motor for crawling things.
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for drifting, sometimes you need a tighter turn radius so i'd say take apart your diff and put some thick grease inside, and rebuild and tighten your diff.
i have a tut posted up somewhere on this forum.

but locked rear is ok for drifting.
never lock your front diff though
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never lock your front diff though
I'll believe that when my Gen 1 stops donut drifting with an unlocked front diff.
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in the world of 1/10th scale racing, if you have 4 wheel drive, put a spool in the back but still have a regular diff in front.. i would imagion that it would be the same principals here.
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for drifting, sometimes you need a tighter turn radius so i'd say take apart your diff and put some thick grease inside, and rebuild and tighten your diff.
i have a tut posted up somewhere on this forum.

but locked rear is ok for drifting.
never lock your front diff though
could you show me what youre talking about plz?

ive tried finding it....
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I'll believe that when my Gen 1 stops donut drifting with an unlocked front diff.
what? he said NEVER lock your front dif. and you said your gen 1 has unlocked front dif. what the hell are you try to get at?
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Old 12-29-2008, 11:52 AM
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Not sure I would want to lock the front for race/drifting because of the turn issue. I locked the front and rear in the Hummer for crawling and its is better but I did notice the turning radius increased a lot for the scale.

I also swear the battery dies quicker but that could just be me being crazy
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could you show me what youre talking about plz?

ive tried finding it....
hold on a moment...
here we go:
http://xmodsource.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13193
just before you put it back together, put some thick grease on the inner gears. it'll tighten up the diff but not to that its locked
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Old 12-29-2008, 03:44 PM
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i just put the RS awd kit on. and tightened the stock rear diff and it tq steered like crazy...so i completely locked the rear diff and it wants to do 3 wheel dougnuts....idk what to do?
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Old 12-29-2008, 09:41 PM
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ok, i think i fixed my problem by soaking both the stock locked rear diff, and stock RS awd open front diff in ATF...seems to be doin good now!

also, whats everyones opinions on atomics ballbearing front diff?superduty front diff?
would an aftermarket rear diff be an upgrade if i plan on it being locked, or would the stock rear diff(locked) be the same as any locked aftermarket rear diff?

im askin cuz i plan on getting an atomic front diff, composite shaft gears,carbon or perfect driveshaft(which ones better) and maybe an aftermarket locked rear diff(if it IS better than the stock diff locked up)

suggestions plzz?
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Old 12-29-2008, 11:23 PM
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what? he said NEVER lock your front dif. and you said your gen 1 has unlocked front dif. what the hell are you try to get at?
And I said I have a LOCKED front diff, and that I'll believe the "NEVER lock your front diff" when my Gen 1 stops donut drifting with a unlocked front diff.
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Old 12-30-2008, 12:26 AM
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y do ppl use threads to argue?....plz answer my Q and stop bickering with one another...
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i answered your question in the other thread you have for this same question............

oops, sorry it was in someone else's thread where you had brought this up too.
http://www.xmodsource.com/forum/show...t=15406&page=2
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