worst day ever

[2jack3jack]

So today my prism's moter blew at 270666 miles. Also the moter in my friends stealth blew so two great cars died both cannot be repaired. Its time to buy another car to hold me off till i get the camaro done. Any advice i don't want anything import i was think about a 442 or a regal.

[KITT222]

Hate to say it but your Prizm is also known as "Corolla". Looks like the thing had a long life. I would never get an old boat like an Olds 442 as a daily driver. Too inefficient, expensive for repairs, handling sucks, and its as big as a school bus! A Regal would be good though. Cheap comfort, and easy to source parts. IF not a Regal I'd say you go for something similar to your Prizm. Cavalier, S10, Escort, Neon, just not a Cobalt. Its within the top 10 most expensive cars to insure, and with a Camaro in the shop more money has to go into that.

[AJB32690]

Im assuming by 442, you mean the eighties version? Good luck finding one or the Regal in daily driver condition... They are either junk or fully restored... Just get another Prism or similar car for now, and save money for the Camaro.

And BTW, a Prism is just a rebranded Toyota Corolla, and the Stealth is a rebranded Mitsu 3000GT... So yeah...


Edit: KITT beat me to it...

[jimmythekid1]

Originally Posted by 2jack3jack

So today my prism's moter blew at 270666 miles. Also the moter in my friends stealth blew so two great cars died both cannot be repaired. Its time to buy another car to hold me off till i get the camaro done. Any advice i don't want anything import i was think about a 442 or a regal.

any thing can be fixed. Engines are replaceable, the stealth might be worth it but the prism is not. Prizms had junk oil rings from day one your lucky that thing hit 270k.

Originally Posted by KITT222

Hate to say it but your Prizm is also known as "Corolla". Looks like the thing had a long life. I would never get an old boat like an Olds 442 as a daily driver. Too inefficient, expensive for repairs, handling sucks, and its as big as a school bus! A Regal would be good though. Cheap comfort, and easy to source parts. IF not a Regal I'd say you go for something similar to your Prizm. Cavalier, S10, Escort, Neon, just not a Cobalt. Its within the top 10 most expensive cars to insure, and with a Camaro in the shop more money has to go into that.

A GM G body is far from a buss, its a mid sized sedan. They handle quite well and can be built up for little money. Those cars have some of the cheapest part out there and are easy to get and repair. Also just to let you know a regal is a G body too. Every heard of a Grand National? lol G bodies are nice cars if you can find one not to rusty. Lot of stock cars started on G body frames.

[dontspamme]

Whats your price range ? That might help.

And since knowing that the Prizm is a rebadged Corolla, get a Corolla ? Those are cheap things and last a life time. We have a 91 Corolla 320,000km and it still pulls very nicely. I know you said that you don't want to buy a import, but thought I would just throw that out there.

KITT has a good point, get a crappier car like the Neon's or something. It's cheap and thus letting you have more money towards the Camaro.

[lol]

So, who copied who. Prisim or Corolla? Talon or Eclipse? Stealth or 3000GT?

[taiwanesekid05]

Prism was a Corolla. Talon was the Eclipse. Stealth was the 3000GT. You could say that the American copied the Japanese, but it more like a joint venture ship or whatever so they shared a few cars.

[Blade.]

Look, if your looking to buy a truck, then pick either a Gen.1 - Gen.4 S10, or you could get a Dodge Dakota, for light size trucks, you could also bump up into the heavier light trucks, like a Dodge Ram or a Chevy C1500, etc.

Now if it's going to be the S10, be very careful on this. The S10's came with multiple engines. They had 4 in total. 2 of which were 4 bangers which BOTH sucked. Then 2 of which were V6's. Make sure you find the S10 that has a 4.3L V6 Vortec(Some Gen.2 have this engine.) it is commonly found within the Gen.3+ era of the S10. Do not, and I repeat do not get the S10 with the 2.8L V6, reading on what you do, like street race because of your rice rice friends, means that the 2.8L will have crankbearing problems faster than normal wear. Happens all the time. 2.8L = **** for the Main bearings.

Dodge Dakota, just get it with the V8 pref. the Magnum version. Enough said, just watch that roller cam.

Or get a little ****er car, like say a Neon, be sure it has the 2.0L Inline-4 in her, enough juice for a little car.

Or better yet, why don't you buy a Dodge Caravan, with the 3.0L in her, maybe a Chevrolet Astro Van with the 4.3L in her. Food for thought, more room for friends, got a badass V6 in her, she's a beast.

Blade.

[winner]

Originally Posted by Blade.

maybe a Chevrolet Astro Van with the 4.3L in her. Food for thought, more room for friends, got a badass V6 in her, she's a beast.

Blade.

+1 thoose astro's are almost unkillable if you take decent care. my dads work truck has like 350k miles on it and still kicking like the day it was new

[ravevolution]

You got 270k miles, you got your money's worth out of it, my mazda is bout to hit 170k, i take care of it doing the proper maint. as recommended by the manufacturer, I'm just driving it till it bottoms out. I was told by an owner who owned the same type of mazda to expect at least 250k out of it since that is what he had on it so far.

[texan_idiot25]

Originally Posted by Blade.

Look, if your looking to buy a truck, then pick either a Gen.1 - Gen.4 S10, or you could get a Dodge Dakota, for light size trucks, you could also bump up into the heavier light trucks, like a Dodge Ram or a Chevy C1500, etc.

Now if it's going to be the S10, be very careful on this. The S10's came with multiple engines. They had 4 in total. 2 of which were 4 bangers which BOTH sucked. Then 2 of which were V6's. Make sure you find the S10 that has a 4.3L V6 Vortec(Some Gen.2 have this engine.) it is commonly found within the Gen.3+ era of the S10. Do not, and I repeat do not get the S10 with the 2.8L V6, reading on what you do, like street race because of your rice rice friends, means that the 2.8L will have crankbearing problems faster than normal wear. Happens all the time. 2.8L = **** for the Main bearings.

Dodge Dakota, just get it with the V8 pref. the Magnum version. Enough said, just watch that roller cam.

Or get a little ****er car, like say a Neon, be sure it has the 2.0L Inline-4 in her, enough juice for a little car.

Or better yet, why don't you buy a Dodge Caravan, with the 3.0L in her, maybe a Chevrolet Astro Van with the 4.3L in her. Food for thought, more room for friends, got a badass V6 in her, she's a beast.

Blade.

S10 only had 2 generations, the square bodies and the rounded 90s. The change in grilles in '96-ish is not a generation. Colorado isn't apart of the S-series either.

And I have never heard of the Caravan as a beast

[jimmythekid1]

Originally Posted by texan_idiot25

S10 only had 2 generations, the square bodies and the rounded 90s. The change in grilles in '96-ish is not a generation. Colorado isn't apart of the S-series either.

And I have never heard of the Caravan as a beast

MAybe he meant the astro?

I would stay away from the 3.0 caravan, get a 3.3 no timing belt.

[Blade.]

Haha, I was told when they changed the grill it changed the Gen. of the truck. Nah, wasn't counting the Colorado in with the S10 Tex.

1980's S10 :

1990's S10 :

1995 S10 :

2000 S10 :


Difference is the grill change from a 3 piece to a 1 piece for the Gen.1-Gen.2(1980-1990)

Well, Jimmy, the only problem with the 3.0L in the Caravan's are only found in the 1990-1995 LE version. The oil rings were no good. Only problem really with the engine, other then the fact the cam lobes wear out pretty slowly compared to the valve springs.

Blade.

[texan_idiot25]

Generation is when it totally changes body styles or a significant platform change (which usually means the body style changes with it, unlike the Ford Ranger or Ford Panthers who have had different platforms under the same body). Otherwise the 67-72 generation is really 3 generations (67/68, 69/70, 71/72). And the 73-87 generation is like... 6 gens, I forget how many front ends they went through.

[Blade.]

Ah good point, so I guess the S10 really had only 3 Gen's then. The 95 going into the 2000 was a huge change. Mainly on the front, but still had alot of changes in it.

If your going to get an S10, go get one of the Gen.1 S10's you can shove a 572 Chev. into her with no problems compared to a Gen2-3 type. Gotta love all of that space, be sure to tie up your roll-cage into your chassis/frame.

Blade.

[jimmythekid1]

Originally Posted by Blade.

Haha, I was told when they changed the grill it changed the Gen. of the truck. Nah, wasn't counting the Colorado in with the S10 Tex.

1980's S10 :

1990's S10 :

1995 S10 :

2000 S10 :


Difference is the grill change from a 3 piece to a 1 piece for the Gen.1-Gen.2(1980-1990)

Well, Jimmy, the only problem with the 3.0L in the Caravan's are only found in the 1990-1995 LE version. The oil rings were no good. Only problem really with the engine, other then the fact the cam lobes wear out pretty slowly compared to the valve springs.

Blade.

Actually the problem was the valve guides, not rings. Timing belts suck on these, I just prefer buying a car with a chain. One less piece of maintenance.

[kendallcschm]

you could go with a ford ranger too.. but go with something cheap.. save the money for the camaro.. and hey if you really wanna go cheap then go with a civic... the LX is like 15K brand new.. and a used mustang 5.0 is cheap too

[Action B]

Originally Posted by taiwanesekid05

Prism was a Corolla. Talon was the Eclipse. Stealth was the 3000GT. You could say that the American copied the Japanese, but it more like a joint venture ship or whatever so they shared a few cars.

In the case of the eclipse/talon

It was called Diamond Star Motors, and yes, it was a joint venture.

from 1990-1994, all the eclipse/talon/lasers were ran off of mitsubishi engines. There were three different motors, all mitsubishi.

from 1995-1999, there were three different motors again, however, the most common one was NOT mitsubishi.

Eclipse/Talons of these years are "copies" of other cars, so to speak.

I heard this somewhere, not sure if its true. If 20 eclipse/talons were made out of the 20, 15 would be non-turbo FWD, four would be FWD turbo and of one one be all wheel drive and turbo.

Anyhow, unless the Non-turbo eclipse/talon is a convertible, it sports a 140 hp "Dodge Neon motor" (420a). So essentially, the vehicle that is non turbo is closest to copying a dodge neon sport. Convertibles are different but I won't get into that.

If the eclipse/talon is a turbo, it sports a "210 hp Mitsubishi EVO III motor", with the only difference being slightly different compression and a smaller turbo. So these vehicles are closest to copying the japanese EVO III. All motor parts in these cars are interchangeable. The bump in power seen in the japanese evo III comes from larger turbo. Japan never got an eclipse, USA never got the evo III.

[2jack3jack]

ok sry my price range is about 1500 bucks. I hate trucks sorry. I kind of like eagle talons the old ones with the bump on the hood

[XMDrifter]

yeah. it's still an import, import badged or not.