Gen1 track car?

[Sweed]

Originally Posted by XMDrifter

haha. a HICAS gen 1 would be awesome

HICAS is hardly alot (and I've heard unreliable) of steering, just a few degrees. I want ALOT of steering in that set-up... Rock Crawler...?

[XMDrifter]

but it's a track car. have normal steer w/ tight turns in front, and a stock servo in back. then turn your steering trim down
course you'd have to reverse the 3 wires from the back servo

[texan_idiot25]

Not Hicas, but more to the point, the IFS from the gen1 is much better then the IRS swing axles. With this, you have consistant alignment through the whole length of travel. Not only this, but camber, and toe are also adjustable on the rear.

[c1v1c]

Originally Posted by texan_idiot25

Not Hicas, but more to the point, the IFS from the gen1 is much better then the IRS swing axles. With this, you have consistant alignment through the whole length of travel. Not only this, but camber, and toe are also adjustable on the rear.

Plus, the front tower gives more space to mount the motor lower then the rear tower

And this wont have rear steer sorry to disapoint some of you guys

Its no crawler, not enought suspension travel for an indy crawler and no articulation on this chassis.

anyways i still gotta cut another knuckles mount piece and then assembly all.

[RedSXmodder]

If you really want to make this bad boy a track car, then hit up the Minizracer forums and just browse through some of the threads. It'll help you understand all of the tuning aspects these little things are capable of, and help you realize how obsolete half the xmods parts are...

Originally Posted by texan_idiot25

Not Hicas, but more to the point, the IFS from the gen1 is much better then the IRS swing axles. With this, you have consistant alignment through the whole length of travel. Not only this, but camber, and toe are also adjustable on the rear.

What he said. When the swivel arms flex, the rear end of the car ends up in a wicked camber angle. horrible for straight line travel, especially when its inconsistent throughout the course of travel. It alters the suspension performance of the entire rear end of the car.

One thing you'll have with the stock xmod front IFS is that its horribly sloppy. You need to break out the epoxy and fill in holes and file away plastic until it is at the desired smoothness. Stick to plastic though. The only thing you may need in GPM is the knuckles.

So will this bad boy be AWD? If not, then it may not be a bad idea to ditch anything shaft, and go with a direct drive similar to an MR-02/MR-015...

Later,
RedSXmodder

[XMDrifter]

hobby grade servo and elecs on your list?
in my opinion, GPM should be on the knuckles, shocks, and towers- the most sloppy parts of any xmod. the rest of an xmod is ok. just my $.02

plastic arms > gpm arms
why? i don't really get that.

[c1v1c]

Originally Posted by XMDrifter

hobby grade servo and elecs on your list?
in my opinion, GPM should be on the knuckles, shocks, and towers- the most sloppy parts of any xmod. the rest of an xmod is ok. just my $.02

plastic arms > gpm arms
why? i don't really get that.

hobby grade? dunno yet.

IMO, GPM should be on the cups, CVD's and knuckles. Get a nice and smooth drivetrain is all i am looking for, Of course bearings too.

[c1v1c]

Well, I decided to go with a 98 mm setup to be able to fit a pancar body and i drawed a template of my chassis.



i might go with Cf But i can't order some right now.
we'll see later on!

[c1v1c]

UPDATE:



I simply mod the rear deck to a A-arms suspension setup out of front towers and custom fab. It also gives me a wider rear stance too.

Stay tuned.

[RedSXmodder]

I'm really diggin the fully independent (zero camber/caster shock travel) idea. It should be great when its done! Slap some MA-01 wheels on er (load truer than stock xmod rims) and it'll be a decent racer!

Later,
RedSXmodder

[amorton94]

i'd like to make my gen 1 a track car, i will eventually, but i just fixed it today. but it looks good so far.

[c1v1c]

Originally Posted by RedSXmodder

I'm really diggin the fully independent (zero camber/caster shock travel) idea. It should be great when its done! Slap some MA-01 wheels on er (load truer than stock xmod rims) and it'll be a decent racer!

Later,
RedSXmodder

Thanks man! I've been wanting mini-z rims/tires/pancar body for a while but i can't shop online that much plus im short on cash.

UPDATE:
SHE'S A ROLLER!




Red is actually better then yellow IMO.
The rear tie rod is just a mock-up, nothing permanent.

Anyways thats it for tonight.

[mytitan]

that awsome, you shoul patten these lol

[XmodzICON82]

that's pretty sweet, i've been trying to do an aluminum frame for one of my evo's or even gen 1 but can't get it right....but your's is awesome good work....

[spitfire]

thats awsome, id love to have one of those.

[Sweed]

Old!



I really, really like the tie-rod thing. Chassis bracing AND it holds the knuckles in place. Looks sweet too... No progress though?

Your pictures make me wanna go work on my Gen1's again. You wanna cut me up a chassis? Or you have a link to your template?

[c1v1c]

Yeah I know it's been a while.

I'll get back to work on it since it has so much interest now.

When i'll get the chassis all sort out, i'll probably post a template.

[himynamebebrian]

SWEET that is amazing. where is the rear mount going to go?

[color0]

Hm... guess I didn't warn you early enough, but if you were planning for a pan car you should've tried to make the front end the wider end. The way you can use narrow offset narrow wheels in front and wide offset wide wheels in back, which will fit perfectly and give you better handling. True, you'd need a custom tierod but it'd be worth it.

How much effort would it take you to make a new chassis? Your current one looks pretty good, I'd guess a couple hours of handiwork.

[c1v1c]

I could probably rebuild the front tierod out of turnbuckles set and a micro servo.

If I decide to go RWD, I could possibly get the front end wider...I'll need your thoughts on this one: AWD or RWD.

Finally, the chassis was a bit offset so I'll just cut out a new one.

And thanks for all your inputs guys! Really appreciated.