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Old 02-20-2007, 11:53 PM
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i would really like to see you pull this off it would be amazing
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Derlin gears are self lubricating...

My Revo takes off like nothing. I don't even notice the shift. I've easily hit 40 mph in a 70 foot stretch. EASILY.


Nitro is a lot of power. a 1/28 is too small of a wheelbase. You need to be atleast 1/20 and down, or it won't fit.

You also need room for two servo's. Smallest (and still strong enough) servo's are about the size of the Steering on in a Gen1. That would eat up room. Plus reciever, linkages, all that. You would have to figure out were to mount an exhust (reaches 300*F+), and a fuel tank. You also need room for the rest of the car, including a two speed transmission (if you want some kind of speed from it), at least a gear reduction, and you need a wheel base that's wider than this....

I'll try and get pictures up....
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More double posts...

I'm not sure if you understand the sheer size of a Nitro Motor and a Tuned pipe.... Here is the Revo 3.3, with a TRX 3.3, and pipe....





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we were thinking of a lot smaller motor... I found one at the hobby shop around here.
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Hell no it wont work, one of those engines are half the size of an xmod it wouldnt move cause of the weigh.. Plus you need a seperate servo to use that engine.. It wont come close to working.
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we were thinking of a lot smaller motor... I found one at the hobby shop around here.
That motor is .20, and the smallest you can find is .05... But it's still wide...
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That motor is .20, and the smallest you can find is .05... But it's still wide...
I remember those little motors from our Airplane days, I dont think you can adjust the throttle on them.. they just go one speed FAST!

I'm thinking of the little cox 0.49 and the 0.10 that we had in the tether planes, I'm sure there is better ones out there with adjustment

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I remember those little motors from our Airplane days, I dont think you can adjust the throttle on them.. they just go one speed FAST!

I'm thinking of the little cox 0.49 and the 0.10 that we had in the tether planes, I'm sure there is better ones out there with adjustment

You can control the throttle. It's easy. The Carberator just uses a series of linkages to vary how much it opens, varying the amount of air and fuel the motor gets, and thus, varying the speed... It's a very noticable diffrence...

But then again, I guess Nitro has changed alot in the last 20 years, and these days, Nitro Car and Nitro Airplane engines aren't much diffrent except for Porting, Exhust, Intake, and Timing/Duration, as they have to do two diffrent things, but both work the same...
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Sweet a REVO crawler!
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That's not a crawler. That's stock. They do that.
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Sexy revo, 3.3?
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Yup. It's a 3.3... It has a nasty habit of chewing up the OWB for the EZ Start though. Just replaced one, and it burn right off.. Maybe something is wrong? I'm gonna convert to PS if it does it again, or just get a starter box...

It handles like it's on wings. When it's lowered completely, you can still hit a curb and go right over, like it wasn't even there...

I just need to get it running again, so I can start modding it, but first is the Micro-T battery, and maybe I can do a Mini-Z Project...
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those motors would never fit mand way two big.
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I've found a nitro engine at my LHS that has a height 1/3rd of the length of my G's chassis. It would be possible for sure. I just wouldn't know how the feeling would be once its complete and you realized you've dumped so much $$$ on a 1:28 that you probably could've used to rebuild the engine in your real car

Sweed, BlackSky, do you have any recommendations on the CHEAPEST (yes, most affordable, yet not bullcr@p quality) nitro vehicle so I can screw around with it?

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those motors would never fit mand way two big.
Never say never. Its possible. But I question my sanity for dumping a large amount of money on this project... I could just keep my money and continue saving up for an FD RX-7
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It could be done and still clear the stock EVO bod if you can machine it. I have seen, proof link included, a four cylinder, four stroke, spark ignition, OHV gasoline engine not much larger than the electric motors currently used in the Xmods. This nut only built two, one to run and one to display the internal parts. His own website says he acually designed it to run, and that it runs quite well. I'm sure this engine has the spunk to drive an Xmod without ruining the transmission on the first hard launch. This engine, however, is not for sale, and the engines he is selling are much too large to fit in an X-mod. Here's the link to his site, already on the engine in question. This engine is freaking awesome, I wish he'd sell off a few hundred to nutz like us to try to fit into Xmods.
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Check out those exposed rocker arms! That thing looks sweet! Thanks for that link truckstowcarsgo! Too bad he doesn't mass produce them...
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RED, I'm getting the feeling you want to try this....

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Wow. That's tiny...

I'm not really into Micro Nitro, just 1/8 and 1/10, as you can't beat a Savage or Revo, for thier punch....

I suggest you go on RCU and ask...

I COULD build a small nitro car. It can be xmod size, but it will be a truck, and it won't use xmod parts for sure. RWD can be done, the weight of the motor will help, with good gearing and weight balance, it can't be too hard...

The Micro Nitro's at my LHS aren't far from xmod size... Maybe and inch or two longer, and maybe alittle wider, just so it can be stable at those speed, which top out at 25 mph....

But, if I did put time and money into it, don't do a crappy suspension. Do a Revo/F1 style suspension, as it will kill anything, and out handle it....

My work here is done....
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RED, I'm getting the feeling you want to try this....

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Just looking at that miniature engine is getting me pumped! Those tiny rocker arms are so... how do I say this without sounding like a girl... cute...

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But, if I did put time and money into it, don't do a crappy suspension. Do a Revo/F1 style suspension, as it will kill anything, and out handle it....
Have you heard of that 1:10 4WD buggy called the TTech Predator? onboard suspension

But the F1 style suspension would be awesome, the problem is, its already hard thinking up of ways to mount an engine, servos, tank, receiver and receiver battery on an xmod-sized chassis, but what more suspension?

I've already tried designing a 1:10 nitro touring car before, but it didn't turn out to well... May be after I've got my degree in mech. engineering, I'll probably think of something better...
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Oh yes. the predator is a amazing. Highest part on the truck is the wheels... F1 cars, the Ttech Predator, and the Revo are the few vehicals with inboard suspension. It's crazy.... You lower the COG so much, and get much better suspension. It's wierd. Stiff over the rough stuff, silky smooth on the street....

It wouldn't be too hard... I'l try and draw something up in Drafting tomarow...

Right now, scroll up and find the Springs and Shocks/Dampers on the Revo....

Can't find them? They are inboard. Sits great. Don't get dirty, and perfectly protected. They sit UNDER the front body mounts, and UNDER the Exhust Pipe in the Rear, with the motor angles over them. Work of genious...

You just mount the gas tank over the rear shocks, and the reciver over the front, the engine is clutch-to-spur full time AWD, and then the steering and throttle servo sits on the sides in front, and your done. The motor will ride a bit high, but will have better cooling, and that will be the highest part of the car, with the laydown suspension. Imagine the Ttech, done nitro.. Unless you can do a "V" style, Revo-Type chasis or a Savage Chassis that smalll....

That would be cool, but all the Nitro Suspensions that small are Cantalivered, like Gen1 style, just better quality and less slack...

It can be done with oil-filled dampers, now that there are micro-t dampers that are alloy, and can be tuned with oil...
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