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fordman239 01-03-2008 10:52 AM

question about nitro hpi cars...
 
ok, i want one real bad, but i have no clue where to get them/how much they cost. can somebody tell me the pros and cons of a nitro, and durability of them? and also, if somebody can tell me what the retail price is for a hpi nitro savage, and what wbsite i can order it off of...

later,
fordman

clintr79 01-03-2008 12:54 PM

The pro with nitro is never change a battery just fuel and keep running but they are more money and of course fuel is not cheap but they are faster and sound great savage rtr 429.99 kit version 365.99 per towerhobbies website

snowboi1289 01-03-2008 01:08 PM

can you spell INTERNET !!!!
look on ebay,use the search on yahoo.com or google.com..its not hard to find something when you SEARCH !!!!

fordman239 01-03-2008 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by clintr79 (Post 128363)
The pro with nitro is never change a battery just fuel and keep running but they are more money and of course fuel is not cheap but they are faster and sound great savage rtr 429.99 kit version 365.99 per towerhobbies website

thanks for that information.


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Originally Posted by snowboi1289 (Post 128371)
can you spell INTERNET !!!!
look on ebay,use the search on yahoo.com or google.com..its not hard to find something when you SEARCH !!!!

hey, there was no need for that.

nofear1911 01-03-2008 07:15 PM

ok my buddy had the on road car and he hit a curb doin like probly about 40 mph half the speed it had in it and busted into pieces and i had a savage and did full bore into a tree not even a crack on it :) cars are fun but not even close to as fun as the trucks also check out the hpi mt2 cheap fast little truck i just got one and love it but it has a O.S. .18 motor on it :D

2wdpancar 01-03-2008 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by fordman239 (Post 128339)
ok, i want one real bad, but i have no clue where to get them/how much they cost. can somebody tell me the pros and cons of a nitro, and durability of them? and also, if somebody can tell me what the retail price is for a hpi nitro savage, and what wbsite i can order it off of...

later,
fordman

OK, lets break it down.
You can get them at your local hobby shop, or online.
Check hobbytron.
They run for around 330-400 with all the supplie you need.
Keep in mind you need fuel, glow plugs, glow igniter, batteries, and a lot of patience.
If you are a beginner to nitro, I really would recommend going with electric.
I bought my CEN CT5 for 330, around 500 w/ tax and fuel etc...
I can't get the fuel mixtures right, cause I'm dumb like that.:lol:
Nitro takes a crapload of maintenace, and PATIENCE.
PATIENCE IS KEY!!!!!
If you don't think you can handle tuning the carb, and cleaning everything, then don't buy it.

Here's my story.
I got my cen ct5 last year for 500 bucks, and it was sooo fun.
I drive it once a month, for a little bit.
Nitro makes me mad when I can't get em to start, since my first 1/10th scale r/c was that nitro car.

Now, I just recently ought a team losi XXX RTR II, which is electric. You don't have to worry about starting engines, etc...
It's brushless, costs around the 350 mark. I would sugggest you don't start with nitro, but an hpi electric car. Look into the HPI Sport II, those are 250. They are decent, and HPI makes quality cars.

PROS:
-Sounds cool
-Fun to take apart
-Eh, good drifters..

CONS:
-Maintainance..
-Patience...
-Extra parts that cost a lot after a while...glow plugs AA batts...
-I could go on...:lol:

Really, I enjoy nitro, when I get my car started.:lol:

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Originally Posted by snowboi1289 (Post 128371)
can you spell INTERNET !!!!
look on ebay,use the search on yahoo.com or google.com..its not hard to find something when you SEARCH !!!!

Really, how did this help him?
He wanted SITES, not suggestions on search engines.
Hobbytron, towerhobbies, pinolehobby(my lhs FTW, its one store), and a lot of other places retail the savage.
People these days...

Make your choice wisely.

fordman239 01-03-2008 07:49 PM

thanks so much for this information. it helps alot. i think im gonna stick to xmods for a while though, until i get som money.

2wdpancar 01-03-2008 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by fordman239 (Post 128579)
thanks so much for this information. it helps alot. i think im gonna stick to xmods for a while though, until i get som money.

Yeah, lol they cost a motherload, but cools down over time:lol: :bigwink:

Stampedekid 01-03-2008 08:35 PM

Let me answer now. I am still new to nitro but not to hobby-grade. I suggest the Traxxas Nitro Stampede as a starter nitro. It's what I got. No reverse though. But no reverse=better driving skills especially if you drive in an open field like me. Then reverse isn't needed. It is a wheelie monster, still waiting for my wheelie bar to arrive at the hobby store. It's not as hard to maintain as everyone says, as long as you do it right. Plus it's tons of fun, gets people's attention, and it has a great sound!

REDisFASTER 01-03-2008 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by blt456 (Post 128581)
Yeah, lol they cost a motherload, but cools down over time:lol: :bigwink:

+1

For nitro R/C, the initial startup is what costs the most. Later on, once you've acquired everything, it gets less expensive.

For hobby-grade electric, initial startup has a moderate cost, but long-term, it adds up, sometimes, much more than nitro...

Stampedekid 01-03-2008 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by REDisFASTER (Post 128602)
+1

For nitro R/C, the initial startup is what costs the most. Later on, once you've acquired everything, it gets less expensive.

For hobby-grade electric, initial startup has a moderate cost, but long-term, it adds up, sometimes, much more than nitro...

Especially since the gears chip faster. The electric motor has to constantly power the vehicle causing gears to chip and break. It is better micro or mini IMO. Sure you could get one of those Brushless Traxxas VXL's. But nitro is more fun with the sound and is more like a real car by using nitro and a real engine. Break-in isn't as hard as everyone says. It is really easy actually. It is annoying but still, it pays off in the end. Plus, electric slows down when the batteries begin to die. Nitro goes to the end running like you just filled it up.

Donziikid 01-03-2008 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by REDisFASTER (Post 128602)
+1

For nitro R/C, the initial startup is what costs the most. Later on, once you've acquired everything, it gets less expensive.

For hobby-grade electric, initial startup has a moderate cost, but long-term, it adds up, sometimes, much more than nitro...

Why do you beleive that, RED?

(Just curious. I personally preffer electric over nitro. But that's because the nitro I've ever owned was planes and the electronic brushless has more power and is easier to handle in planes.) :)

-Donzii.

REDisFASTER 01-03-2008 09:22 PM

Well, for nitro, you buy the kit, the engine, electronics, fuels, maintenance supplies, tools (if you don't already have them), pit box, bearing maintenance supplies etc...

For electric, you buy the kit, motor(s), motor late (to true commutators) electronics (ESC, servo, Tx and Rx), AC/DC charger, discharger, battery matcher, matched cells, building jig, soldering equipment if you don't already have it, pit box, bearing maintenance supplies, etc...

I don't know... Probably from from personal experience... I've been in hobby-grade since 2003/4 and I'm only 1/3 of the way done to having a manageable electric R/C, since I'm still missing quite a bit of maintenance items and proper batteries and battery conditioning devices (preserve your investment, or pay more later?)

I got into nitro earlier last year and I'm about 1/2 way to 3/4 of the way done in having everything I need to do to 'getup-and-go'. I just need a starter box, upgrade my electronics and transmitter, engine, then I'm off to the races!

2wdpancar 01-03-2008 09:42 PM

For electric, you take your average run-of-the-mill HPI.
It isn't the best for speed, or w/e.
Say you want speed, you go get aluminum parts, and a brushless motor and esc(the killer part):lol:

For nitro, the starter engines that come with the cars have good speed, for let's say HPI/Traxxas/CEN....

Nitro can go fast out of the box, but if it's one of those knock-offs with no name brands, then you are going to have a lonnggg time modding it.
That's what I've observed, as I own both a 1/10th scale nitro and electric r/c car atm.:)

torredo 01-03-2008 09:47 PM

electric = easy as humble pie!
nitro = patience, money and needing to learn/understand to tune!

plus gas, plus plugs , plus, plus, plus...+++++

2wdpancar 01-03-2008 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by torredo (Post 128650)
electric = easy as humble pie!
nitro = patience, money and needing to learn/understand to tune!

plus gas, plus plugs , plus, plus, plus...+++++

Kind of what Red and I mentioned:roll:

torredo 01-03-2008 10:17 PM

you sure did! lmao!

i just simplified if for him.... hehhe

2wdpancar 01-03-2008 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by torredo (Post 128668)
you sure did! lmao!

i just simplified if for him.... hehhe

O ok, I had the feeling you didn't both reading the posts...
That's cool, basically sums it up.:lol:

stang_racer 01-03-2008 11:58 PM

ok i think that nitro is better because if u dont understand something its a chance to learn and find out things about ur self ex. patience (sorry if i sound like ur shink sweed, if u dont got one u need one if u doin the things in that tank vid!! jkjkjk rotflmao!!) ok so back to my mini rant nitro is faster, and they fast right outta the box, also mixing fuel math skills lol, breaking in the motor driving skills, my neighbors drive their s around in a circle till the motors broken in, then u can do sweet jumps with nitro because they faster like that vid on youtube with the buggy that jumps the house. also who can forget that amazing sound they make???

clintr79 01-04-2008 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by stang_racer (Post 128725)
ok i think that nitro is better because if u dont understand something its a chance to learn and find out things about ur self ex. patience (sorry if i sound like ur shink sweed, if u dont got one u need one if u doin the things in that tank vid!! jkjkjk rotflmao!!) ok so back to my mini rant nitro is faster, and they fast right outta the box, (also mixing fuel )math skills lol, breaking in the motor driving skills, my neighbors drive their s around in a circle till the motors broken in, then u can do sweet jumps with nitro because they faster like that vid on youtube with the buggy that jumps the house. also who can forget that amazing sound they make???

What do you mean mixing fuel that is for the 1/5 scale with a weed wacker motor nitro there is no mixing


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