question about nitro hpi cars...
ok, i want one real bad, but i have no clue where to get them/how much they cost. can somebody tell me the pros and cons of a nitro, and durability of them? and also, if somebody can tell me what the retail price is for a hpi nitro savage, and what wbsite i can order it off of...
later, fordman |
The pro with nitro is never change a battery just fuel and keep running but they are more money and of course fuel is not cheap but they are faster and sound great savage rtr 429.99 kit version 365.99 per towerhobbies website
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can you spell INTERNET !!!!
look on ebay,use the search on yahoo.com or google.com..its not hard to find something when you SEARCH !!!! |
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ok my buddy had the on road car and he hit a curb doin like probly about 40 mph half the speed it had in it and busted into pieces and i had a savage and did full bore into a tree not even a crack on it :) cars are fun but not even close to as fun as the trucks also check out the hpi mt2 cheap fast little truck i just got one and love it but it has a O.S. .18 motor on it :D
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You can get them at your local hobby shop, or online. Check hobbytron. They run for around 330-400 with all the supplie you need. Keep in mind you need fuel, glow plugs, glow igniter, batteries, and a lot of patience. If you are a beginner to nitro, I really would recommend going with electric. I bought my CEN CT5 for 330, around 500 w/ tax and fuel etc... I can't get the fuel mixtures right, cause I'm dumb like that.:lol: Nitro takes a crapload of maintenace, and PATIENCE. PATIENCE IS KEY!!!!! If you don't think you can handle tuning the carb, and cleaning everything, then don't buy it. Here's my story. I got my cen ct5 last year for 500 bucks, and it was sooo fun. I drive it once a month, for a little bit. Nitro makes me mad when I can't get em to start, since my first 1/10th scale r/c was that nitro car. Now, I just recently ought a team losi XXX RTR II, which is electric. You don't have to worry about starting engines, etc... It's brushless, costs around the 350 mark. I would sugggest you don't start with nitro, but an hpi electric car. Look into the HPI Sport II, those are 250. They are decent, and HPI makes quality cars. PROS: -Sounds cool -Fun to take apart -Eh, good drifters.. CONS: -Maintainance.. -Patience... -Extra parts that cost a lot after a while...glow plugs AA batts... -I could go on...:lol: Really, I enjoy nitro, when I get my car started.:lol: Quote:
He wanted SITES, not suggestions on search engines. Hobbytron, towerhobbies, pinolehobby(my lhs FTW, its one store), and a lot of other places retail the savage. People these days... Make your choice wisely. |
thanks so much for this information. it helps alot. i think im gonna stick to xmods for a while though, until i get som money.
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Let me answer now. I am still new to nitro but not to hobby-grade. I suggest the Traxxas Nitro Stampede as a starter nitro. It's what I got. No reverse though. But no reverse=better driving skills especially if you drive in an open field like me. Then reverse isn't needed. It is a wheelie monster, still waiting for my wheelie bar to arrive at the hobby store. It's not as hard to maintain as everyone says, as long as you do it right. Plus it's tons of fun, gets people's attention, and it has a great sound!
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For nitro R/C, the initial startup is what costs the most. Later on, once you've acquired everything, it gets less expensive. For hobby-grade electric, initial startup has a moderate cost, but long-term, it adds up, sometimes, much more than nitro... |
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(Just curious. I personally preffer electric over nitro. But that's because the nitro I've ever owned was planes and the electronic brushless has more power and is easier to handle in planes.) :) -Donzii. |
Well, for nitro, you buy the kit, the engine, electronics, fuels, maintenance supplies, tools (if you don't already have them), pit box, bearing maintenance supplies etc...
For electric, you buy the kit, motor(s), motor late (to true commutators) electronics (ESC, servo, Tx and Rx), AC/DC charger, discharger, battery matcher, matched cells, building jig, soldering equipment if you don't already have it, pit box, bearing maintenance supplies, etc... I don't know... Probably from from personal experience... I've been in hobby-grade since 2003/4 and I'm only 1/3 of the way done to having a manageable electric R/C, since I'm still missing quite a bit of maintenance items and proper batteries and battery conditioning devices (preserve your investment, or pay more later?) I got into nitro earlier last year and I'm about 1/2 way to 3/4 of the way done in having everything I need to do to 'getup-and-go'. I just need a starter box, upgrade my electronics and transmitter, engine, then I'm off to the races! |
For electric, you take your average run-of-the-mill HPI.
It isn't the best for speed, or w/e. Say you want speed, you go get aluminum parts, and a brushless motor and esc(the killer part):lol: For nitro, the starter engines that come with the cars have good speed, for let's say HPI/Traxxas/CEN.... Nitro can go fast out of the box, but if it's one of those knock-offs with no name brands, then you are going to have a lonnggg time modding it. That's what I've observed, as I own both a 1/10th scale nitro and electric r/c car atm.:) |
electric = easy as humble pie!
nitro = patience, money and needing to learn/understand to tune! plus gas, plus plugs , plus, plus, plus...+++++ |
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you sure did! lmao!
i just simplified if for him.... hehhe |
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That's cool, basically sums it up.:lol: |
ok i think that nitro is better because if u dont understand something its a chance to learn and find out things about ur self ex. patience (sorry if i sound like ur shink sweed, if u dont got one u need one if u doin the things in that tank vid!! jkjkjk rotflmao!!) ok so back to my mini rant nitro is faster, and they fast right outta the box, also mixing fuel math skills lol, breaking in the motor driving skills, my neighbors drive their s around in a circle till the motors broken in, then u can do sweet jumps with nitro because they faster like that vid on youtube with the buggy that jumps the house. also who can forget that amazing sound they make???
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Buddy, for 1/5th scale, mixing oil with gas is the mixture for the GAS ENGINES, not nitro0methane engines:roll: Lol, what the heck do you think we've been talking about this whole time on nitro fuel, if it was gas, we would've said gas... I think the only HPI that uses a gas engine in the Baja 5.:lol: |
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I think stang_racer is only trying to say that stuff because he probably stuffed his Rustler engine from actually trying to mix 2-stroke oil in with the nitro :p Anyway, yeah, HPI is the only American-ish company that uses petrol in their large scale R/C (I say American-ish because HPI is also Japanese). The most prominent company who makes 1/5 large scale R/C is a European company by the name of FG Modellsport. They make the most high-end touring and F1 cars in R/C. Petrol powered, high end models also contain hydraulic disk brakes, while lower end models, usually called Ecoline or Sportsline, use cables/linkages to operate their disk brakes... Oh, and the disk brakes are actually mounted on the steering knuckle and rear uprights! So when the car steers, the disk goes with it! Small pic, but you get the idea: http://www.fg-modellsport-gmbh.de/me...-tuning-05.jpg |
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I hope he didn't try mixing gas in his nitro engine:lol: |
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no doubt! haha |
thanks for all the comments. i may be getting one, but not for a little while while i try to work and get some money, i just bought a blue nib civic, so thats what i got for now.
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my decision...
i have decided to hold off on getting an hpi nitro savage, becuz of price and skill level. right now, i am awaiting the arrival of the newest car to my collection, a blue honda civic. also, i still havent finished upgrading my other 6 xmods with alloy parts, so i need money to do that. and i thank all of you for the pros and cons od a nitro powered rc car, and yes, i saw some videos and they do sound awesome. but im going to stick to xmods for now. |
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Be sure to give us an update when you finally get that nitro R/C of yours, there's lots of us here to help you out! |
wil do, i was also looking at the hpi firestorm nitro, i heard they are cheaper than savages, and they are just as great. i watched a bunch of videos on the hpi site, and i do know how to drive them, its just that i do not know that much about them yet. theres a guy up the road from me with a t-maxx, and he is always driving it. if i need your guy's help i will ask.
later, fordman |
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If you want to upgrade 6 xmods with GPM, it's going to cost you a motherload. To be honest, you'll eventually regret buying all of those parts for the Xmods. Here's why...this might not apply to you..here's another story. So, I sent my 2 cars(the only ones I had... a gen1 and EVO to mk2kompressor about 6 months ago. He's a busy guy, and he's done almost everything, besides assemble the motors. So, I have here all the upgrades for them, a gen1 w/ Micro-T electronics, and an Almost-working barricade. I spent so much money, but once you go up in the RC Scale "world," it'll cost you, and Xmods can really only drive indoors, and outdoors if it's on smooth concrete, or in malls..etc... That's my opinion, but triple-think if you want to upgrade all 6 of your xmods, maybe think of upgrading one or 2 if you have the money with lets say external turbos/stacked FETs, HOT motors, and full GPM. Just a thought.:) Quote:
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later, fordman |
Firestorm... You'll regret spending as much as you do on XMODS... I know that I kinda regret spending that kind of cash on XMODS 'back in the day' ;)
The Firestorm has a great fan backing... Fordman, PM me |
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See fordman, no matter what, they are still toys, till you do a hobby-grade conversion.. But really, good choice for shooting at 2-3 cars, and selling the rest.:) You won't regret that man.:lol: |
im thinkin about selling all 3 of my trucks and selling both my evo cars, and keeping my 2 gen 1's.
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Make it like a house driver/basher or something, maybe a drifter. Saee, kepp the gen1's for sure, and keep an EVO, so you can have it. That way if you go back and sell it, then you all of a sudden want one, good luck buying one man. They cost 50+, so I would recommend keeping one.:) |
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the Baja 5 uses a mixture as there is no real cooling system on it, so an oil/fuel mixture is needed to lubricate the internals. |
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Whoops, my understanding was that it used a fuel mixture. My bad dude.:lol: |
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