i need help ricers!

[young_ricer_14]

over the next 2 years im planning to save 10grend to buy my car, i want to buy a import but i need an expert opinion on what to buy, i have a sponsor lighned up for parts, so im covered, i need to know what car i should get to get the most bang for my buck, anyone who can help me?

[BlackSky909]

300zx and dont ever call it a ricer, moved to Car section.

[spanx]

whos your sponser?

[young_ricer_14]

i dont think i should say, but they sponsored my sis and her mustang, its a campany working with a lot of aftermarket brands. they put about 20 grand in it for her, and some custom one off motor, idk the name of the company actually

[civic_guy]

Best bang for buck Subaru WRX. You could easily make it more powerful than an STI for less than the STI would cost you. Make sure you go wingless.

[REDisFASTER]

yeah, if you get a WRX and mod it to be more powerful and HANDLE better (its not all about power boys) and don't put on the STi deck spoiler or badges, it'll be a sleeper.

But I'm going to go with BlackSky909 on this. 300ZX because its a beautiful car and its RWD. and NEVER call it a ricer

[DRFTKO]

id say WRX and quit with the ricer s@#$, im going to help you out, i am positive i know who you are sponsored by and you dont even need to deal with them. Im talking about Sport Compact Pro, I know a few people that were sponsored by them and they hated it. All you get is a discount on parts and you have to do so much for them (comitment wise), my advice stay away from them:nodno:

[young_ricer_14]

my sis's sponsor changed there names, they were some website that she found on google. i found a impreza on autotrader, its a 92 and auto with a cheap motor, im gonna swap it if i buy it, should i act on it? on myspace a guy from illinois is trying to sell me a 200sx. it has a 2.2 dohc on it and ground effects kit. both are the same price, $2,500. should i buy either of them or wait and see what somes my way? im 14, so i have some time to decide, and the sponsor ur talkin about, ive never heard of, but if the sponsor drops me, i can always get cheep parts from my uncle. iv e been planing this out for months aqnd i have it down how i want it to go. my main question it should i wait to see if any better cars come my way?

[TheB1GDude]

Get an Evo as they handle better the WRX also they have a nicer interior! :-) Doesnt need to be an Evo8 the 5's are amazing and are reasonably priced, if you can afford it go for a 7! But the power you can get out of a stock 5 engine is very impressive!

I wouldn't go for something like a Supra or 300ZX purely because they are RWD and if you put to much power into it your going to stack it and be annoyed because you just wrote off your sweet car!

Be realistic, play it safe and get AWD!

Although as an afterthough if you have a sponsor who is willing to put in aftermarket parts as big as a new engine it doesnt really matter what you because your only really going to use the body shell, maybe look for something like an insurance write off, say something like someone drove the engine block on to a tree stump which totalled the car and caused the insurance company to write it off but left the body in perfect condition! (This is actually a true story - yes one of my friends was stupid enough enough to plant his RWD MX-5 engine block right onto a tree stump)

[kidZim]

Evo's may be better out of the box.. but the WRX has the customization on its side.. the Evo doesnt stand a chance compaired the WRX for what you can do with it..

SUBARU FTW!

[FlaminG35]

Yeah, but imo, I'd go with a (J) Silvia, or an American 240SX, but swap in the red top japan motor (turbo, of course) then it'd be awesome. The red top is only a 2 liter, but makes it feel much taller than the stock American 240SX 2.4 truck motor (whos f***in idea was it to put the sweet motor in the japan one, and a non-turbo truck over in the us??? oh well) with the turbo.

For the AWD class, yeah, go with the WRX. Great looks, performance (modded) and you can find older ones for pretty cheap. And yeah, jump on the chance for the one (as long as the bodys in mint condition, NO WRECKS) with the bad motor. The stock 2.5 Liter Subaru motors tend to grenade at about 300-400 whp range, so swap in the larger, stronger 3 liter, then you'd be able to get more power, more reliably, and most importantly, more safely. Happy hunting, man!

OH, if you go with a FWD vehicle (which I don't suggest with high horsepower, but...) go with either a:
Prelude
Maxima (or Altima with the 3.5 package)
Civic (you can find body for cheap, and the motors too)
Integra

Well, hope all goes well, man! I'm hopin to get sponsored when I get my car (I want a Maxima, which is a 4-door with the Z motor in it, and FWD. The motor is tuned down a little, of course.) So, at least you've got some backing man! Good luck

[DRFTKO]

my sis's sponsor changed there names, they were some website that she found on google. i found a impreza on autotrader, its a 92 and auto with a cheap motor, im gonna swap it if i buy it, should i act on it? on myspace a guy from illinois is trying to sell me a 200sx. it has a 2.2 dohc on it and ground effects kit. both are the same price, $2,500. should i buy either of them or wait and see what somes my way? im 14, so i have some time to decide, and the sponsor ur talkin about, ive never heard of, but if the sponsor drops me, i can always get cheep parts from my uncle. iv e been planing this out for months aqnd i have it down how i want it to go. my main question it should i wait to see if any better cars come my way?


is the 200SX an SE-R by any chance, if so it has an Sr20de in it (non-turbo version), its a fast and rare version of the car. I know someone that had one and I was very impressed with the performance of the vehicle:)

[young_ricer_14]

ty man, when i said i was interested in buying a car my grandpa baught me a 85 oldsmobile le sabre custom, i might take the stereo and rims off it, were gonna put it on donuts and sell it, i was suprised to see the gauges, a traditional gauge, (_), round, heres its spedoeter, [_____], its freakin square. i might take out the engine out, idk what it is, but its fast as ****, but sounds like someone took a freakin axe to it. im gonna sell it, get the cash, and by then ill hope to have 5grand, if i dont have a car in line to buy, ill get on autotrader and see whats available. i wanna ger a car for 4grand and ger gauges and a short ram. im not gonna getr insurance for about 3 years cus ****, like 6thousand dollars a year, right? my younger sis is thinkin about us sharing the car, so we have double the money to tune it. anzo head and tail lights are nice, but has anyone ever heard of the brand angel lights? if not, its cool. like at jiffy lube and auto zone, among others, have these contests where they give away cars. ow come, the person that wins the **** car dosent need it, there always like some doctor or contractor. my grandpa gave me his nissan sidewinder, i loked for parts for it, nothing. i google image searched it, N 1 HAS HEARD OF IT! i guess its some rare special edition truck or something. idk, but its strange as **** if i do say so myself. anyone know of anything i could do to make quick cash, that dosent involve a job??? ive thought til i cant think no more1

[DRFTKO]

angel eyes is not a brand name, it is a type of headlight:)

[young_ricer_14]

oops, yea, thats what i meant.

[Numbchux]

well, what do you want out of it? and how much work are you willing to do?


if you just want to drive in a straight line. get a domestic RWD muscle car.

if you want anything else (i.e. fun stuff, rally, ice racing, autoX, RallyX, open track etc.), you're probably best off with AWD.


bang for the buck, get a 2-door AWD '93-'01 impreza (couldn't be a '92 imp you were looking at, imprezas started in '93). shoot for an 'L' model, since they already have rear disc brakes.

than, do an engine swap. ANY subaru engine will fit in there, with ANY subaru tranny.

best bet would be a jdm ver 5/6 sti front clip. the EJ20G (closed deck 2.0l jdm wrx motor) is capable of 300 awhp with basic mods. and can be had for a few thousand dollars.

or an EJ22t (early legacy turbo motor), and build the #@$%#$ out of it. STi DOHC heads and intake, turbo (GT35R for big power, TD06 16g for torque), custom pistons, cams, etc. for an easy 500awhp.

or just a USDM WRX motor, for a hair over 200 awhp out of the box. in a car that weighs almost 800 lbs less than a USDM WRX.

than get some suspension ($500 - $3k, depending on what you want). some brakes ($500 - $1k), and tires ($500). maybe an STi 6-speed transmission ($1k or so).

and for that, you're talking something that'll dominate an AutoX circuit for $10k-$12k. or just an earth shattering 500awhp for less than $20k. add a few thousand if you pay someone else to do the work.


oh yea, and take your time with it. don't buy the car, and then a month later, dive in with this huge swap. Drive the car for awhile, learn the dynamics of the chassis, how to drive it, how to get it to do what you want. also, do your own basic maintenance, brake pads, timing belt, etc. so you know your car inside and out. and you'll also know exactly what needs upgrading, and you can plan accordingly. you'll save yourself a fortune that way!

[civic_guy]

Like I said...best bang for your buck is the Subaru WRX you could get a new one put a lot of money down and have relatively low payments. Also since you're getting sponsored you dont need extra cash for mods.

[slpknt17]

can anyone say Mitshubishi 3000 GTO TwinTurbo

[REDisFASTER]

can anyone say Mitshubishi 3000 GTO TwinTurbo
lol, 3000GT VR4 (4WD TT) in USDM, GTO Twin Turbo in JDM.

Amazing styling on that car (first and second generation), but tremendously heavy.

That car also has many issues that need to be corrected ;) But the fanbase for the 3KGT is huge. And the car is huge too!

I wouldn't mind getting one :P

[civic_guy]

can anyone say Mitshubishi 3000 GTO TwinTurbo
Can you say heavy as S**T...power to weight ratio will pwn you in that car. But on the other hand it's a nice lookin car :D I just can't refuse any import...:( i like em all....

[Numbchux]

Like I said...best bang for your buck is the Subaru WRX you could get a new one put a lot of money down and have relatively low payments. Also since you're getting sponsored you dont need extra cash for mods.

wrong. waste of money. a WRX will cost at least twice what a plain impreza costs. and will still need an engine swap. AND, weigh 800 lbs more, AND be ugly as balls because it's a 4-door. AND most WRXs have been abused, get an old 2-door impreza, and it's probalby been babied.

the only thing you'll need to drop a turbo engine in a non-turbo impreza, is the engine crossmember, to clear the up-pipe. but if you're getting an entire front clip anyway (which you should...huge bang for buck factor), that'll be included.

[civic_guy]

wrong. waste of money. a WRX will cost at least twice what a plain impreza costs. and will still need an engine swap. AND, weigh 800 lbs more, AND be ugly as balls because it's a 4-door. AND most WRXs have been abused, get an old 2-door impreza, and it's probalby been babied.

the only thing you'll need to drop a turbo engine in a non-turbo impreza, is the engine crossmember, to clear the up-pipe. but if you're getting an entire front clip anyway (which you should...huge bang for buck factor), that'll be included.

WHY WOULD IT NEED AND ENGINE SWAP?!?!?!! I know guys run 500+ AWHP in their WRX's all you need to do it a nice 3in exhaust bigger turbo, injectors etc... The new WRX's have a 2.5L (if im not mistaken) which is perfect tuning wise. No offense but you're crazy!! Get the right turbo some engine components and good tune and STI's EVO MR's and Turbo civics will be eating your dust all day long...who cares if it's 4 door...that just means you don't have to get rid of it when you have kids!!

[viggy92]

i agree with civi guy my bro got the new suburu impreza 2.5 and i love the handling i keep talkin bout jus puttin in turbo and it wud b a beast plus it ways less then all the other imprezas(sti,wrx)

[streetballerzz3]

yeah 300ZX alll the way but if u can get cash try for an older lancer evo if u can find one in good condition

[young_ricer_14]

what about this. http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/modelinfo.jsp?vehicle_number=14676&&default_sort=priceDESC&dealer_id=73840&end_year=2007&address=65109&start_year=1981&fuel=&certified=&keywordsrep=&car_id=209815180&search_type=both&max_mileage=&body_code=15&drive=&min_price=1&distance=100&engine=&body_style=CONVERT&body_style=COUPE&body_style=HATCH&body_style=SEDAN&transmission=Automatic&make=&keywordsfyc=&feature1=cd&sort_type=priceDESC&num_records=25&car_year=1998&doors=&style_flag=2&cardist=100&max_price=3000&advanced=y&color=&ref=srl#vdptop

[civic_guy]

:puke:

if you have sponsers lined up...atleast get a nice car...not a neon...I mean...no offese to anyone if you drive a neon....but it's a NEON.

[DRFTKO]

:puke:

if you have sponsers lined up...atleast get a nice car...not a neon...I mean...no offese to anyone if you drive a neon....but it's a NEON.


DO NOT GET A NEON UNLESS IT IS AN SRT-4, thats all I have to say about that!!!

[civic_guy]

DO NOT GET A NEON UNLESS IT IS AN SRT-4, thats all I have to say about that!!!

SRT-4 is still a NEON.....sorry Im not a big fan of the whole naming cars diff names but they're still the same thing. Like the billion names for a mustang...saleen, roush, cobra...OMG it's just a mustang with a bigger engine and people act like it's a whole NEW car!!

close rant


lol

[Numbchux]

WHY WOULD IT NEED AND ENGINE SWAP?!?!?!! I know guys run 500+ AWHP in their WRX's all you need to do it a nice 3in exhaust bigger turbo, injectors etc... The new WRX's have a 2.5L (if im not mistaken) which is perfect tuning wise. No offense but you're crazy!! Get the right turbo some engine components and good tune and STI's EVO MR's and Turbo civics will be eating your dust all day long...who cares if it's 4 door...that just means you don't have to get rid of it when you have kids!!

yep, you could buy a 2.5l '06 WRX. for almost $30k....and have 250 CRANK hp. and stock suspension and brakes.

or, you could buy a '93 impreza, for about a grand, put an EJ22t (MUCH stronger and more reliable motor than the EJ257 in the WRX, and costs about $500), throw some boost at it ($2k for a nice setup, 5k-6k for a full engine build), and have the same thing, in a lighter car for less than $10k.


but sure, if you want to throw away money, pay me the $30k, and I'll build you a car that'll kill anything you could buy new for $30k, and then I'll build another one for myself with the profit.

it's about the money. in 10 years, I'll probably buy a 2006 WRX wagon, they're awesome cars, but not for the money.

[thrillbilly]

ide say get an early 90's rx-7, one with a rotory... you can put a freaking turbo on it and own everyone you know, but please whatever you do DONT GET A FREAKING NEON!!!!!!!!! its not a tuner car, no matter how much money you put into it!!!!!!!!

[civic_guy]

yep, you could buy a 2.5l '06 WRX. for almost $30k....and have 250 CRANK hp. and stock suspension and brakes.

or, you could buy a '93 impreza, for about a grand, put an EJ22t (MUCH stronger and more reliable motor than the EJ257 in the WRX, and costs about $500), throw some boost at it ($2k for a nice setup, 5k-6k for a full engine build), and have the same thing, in a lighter car for less than $10k.


but sure, if you want to throw away money, pay me the $30k, and I'll build you a car that'll kill anything you could buy new for $30k, and then I'll build another one for myself with the profit.

it's about the money. in 10 years, I'll probably buy a 2006 WRX wagon, they're awesome cars, but not for the money.

06 WRX is much better looking....plus he's got sponsors lined up why would he want an old car??

You can buy anything old and put a bigger engine in it for less money than ANY new car...the point is to buy a nice car that your sponsors would be proud to have represent them.

[Numbchux]

06 WRX is much better looking....plus he's got sponsors lined up why would he want an old car??

You can buy anything old and put a bigger engine in it for less money than ANY new car...the point is to buy a nice car that your sponsors would be proud to have represent them.

weight. an '06 WRX sedan weighs about 700 lbs more than a GC sedan. and almost 1000 more than a GC coupe....

you can buy anything old and put a bigger engine in it. but you'll never find the easy interchangeability of a subaru.

here's a '93, putting about 350 hp to all 4 wheels. with cusco coilovers, full jdm body kit, including aluminum hood, and r-compound tires. it's for sale for $11k:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a51/deride/zach2.jpg
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r249/scuba_steve1122/IMG_0573.jpg
tell me a sponsor wouldn't love to put their name on that!


but....like I said, get whatever you want. but if you want the best of the best at everything. it's pretty **** hard to beat a swapped GC. certainly not for the money.

AND, if you want to do something different, an EZ30 (3.0l 6-cyl from an outback) will fit in there, and shares the same cylinder bore as a WRX motor (interchangeable pistons). there's something different, that'll yield even more power. and it's still all aluminum!! That's what I plan to do, although I'm starting with an even lighter chassis....

[sweetvette]

ive seen nice neons, but newer ones like 2000 or later
http://www.diald.com/index.htm?Domestic_Disturbance/2004_04_Turbo_SRT/Turbo_SRT.htm~mainFrame
and lets face it, the newer neons are chick cars, i mean my sister drives one. (The srt 4 is less girly)

i was also thinkin, you should get a ford focus. http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/projectcars/0409scc_project_ford_svt_focus_part_3/

but if your going with a subaru, do what numbchux said

[R.O.T.N. Racing]

300zx and dont ever call it a ricer, moved to Car section.
The twin turbo 300zx is one of my fav cars!!! Check out this sweet video of them!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAGUflJ6Jds

[modman54935]

nah get a 240 sx and swap the engine for a sr20det motor and then just deck that out!

[civic_guy]

nah get a 240 sx and swap the engine for a sr20det motor and then just deck that out!

A 240 would be nice...a RX-7 with the fortune Veilside kit would be nice too! You could get a 95-98 Supra...but supras are kinda played out; they're still nice though.

[Numbchux]

A 240 would be nice...a RX-7 with the fortune Veilside kit would be nice too! You could get a 95-98 Supra...but supras are kinda played out; they're still nice though.

supra...lol

2 words, Dyno Queen!!!

[civic_guy]

supra...lol

2 words, Dyno Queen!!!

Yeah 95% of them are lol but I've seen some Auto big single turbo supras rip up the drag strip...there's not many of them though.

[Numbchux]

Yeah 95% of them are lol but I've seen some Auto big single turbo supras rip up the drag strip...there's not many of them though.

yep, a 1000hp supra would lose to an 800hp rx7. supras suck

[viggy92]

def do but ya subys are the way to go even the interior is amazing

u can make a sharp turn at 80 and not budge one bit in the seats but that don matter lol (not sayin i do that:nod:)
but ya anythin is fine with me if it starts wit atleast 250 and is lighter than my volvo lol

[Flat 4 Racing]

Best bang for buck Subaru WRX. You could easily make it more powerful than an STI for less than the STI would cost you. Make sure you go wingless.

I disagree. I checked that route before purchasing my STi. The STi/STI is superior in every way, down to the stiffer structure, and it will not cost less to build up a WRX, especially if you start with a brand new one. You will spend just as much on a WRX just to get it to stock STi/STI levels, and that much more to get ahead, all the while, you've already voided your warranty. The only advantage the WRX has over the STi/STI is a weight difference of about 100-150 lbs.

Just to name some of the major differences of what the STi/STI has, that the WRX does not.

1. Staggered shocks (chassis)

2. Turbo

3. 6 speed manual transmission

4. DCCD (change percentage of torque percentage to either front/rear wheels)

5. Lighter forged wheels

6. Brembo braking system

7. Suspension

8. Clutch

These are only some differences. These parts are superior to that of the standard WRX in every way. Sure, a WRX can be made to perform just as well or better than an STi/STI, but at the end of the day, the STi/STI is going to be the cheaper one. Again, add all of those upgrades into the price of a brand new WRX and you're going to exceed the price of the STi/STI.

yep, you could buy a 2.5l '06 WRX. for almost $30k....and have 250 CRANK hp. and stock suspension and brakes.

or, you could buy a '93 impreza, for about a grand, put an EJ22t (MUCH stronger and more reliable motor than the EJ257 in the WRX, and costs about $500), throw some boost at it ($2k for a nice setup, 5k-6k for a full engine build), and have the same thing, in a lighter car for less than $10k.


but sure, if you want to throw away money, pay me the $30k, and I'll build you a car that'll kill anything you could buy new for $30k, and then I'll build another one for myself with the profit.

it's about the money. in 10 years, I'll probably buy a 2006 WRX wagon, they're awesome cars, but not for the money.

This is the best way to go. Get a GC8 bodystyle 2.5RS, because they only weigh about 2900 lbs. Then go with a version 7 STi drivetrain. You'll be cleaning house, left and right.

Evo's may be better out of the box.. but the WRX has the customization on its side.. the Evo doesnt stand a chance compaired the WRX for what you can do with it..

SUBARU FTW!

The Evo will run circles around a WRX without breaking a sweat. Where are you getting your misinformation? With nothing more than an ECU tune, intake, and a turbo-back exhaust, they are putting down 300-320 whp. With those same mods, STis/STIs are only putting down around 290 whp.

The Evo responds much better to mods than a WRX or STi/STI. But while the Evo is a better performer for the money, they also tend to spend a lot of time in the shop.

[Numbchux]

or, start with an L coupe and your looking at more like 2700....

Evo's may be able to perform a little better, but Subarus have WAY better drivetrain design.

low COG of a flat four

symmetrical AWD

longitudinal engine config

and that little thing called reliability.


not to mention the fact that subarus = legos.

[Flat 4 Racing]

or, start with an L coupe and your looking at more like 2700....

Evo's may be able to perform a little better, but Subarus have WAY better drivetrain design.

low COG of a flat four

symmetrical AWD

longitudinal engine config

and that little thing called reliability.


not to mention the fact that subarus = legos.

True, you could definitely go with an L Coupe, but I think the 2.5RS has a nicer suspension setup, and an overall nicer look to it. Also, I dunno about you, but I prefer the GC line's coupes to that of the sedan, but I don't think the current Impreza design would've looked good in coupe form.

You're right about Evos. They may respond to mods better than Subarus, but you'll pass'em 2 miles up the road after they're on the shoulder. I've read and witnessed countless demises of Evos' drivetrains, yet I've never heard of someone blowing an STi's/STI's drivetrain. The STi's/STI's drivetrain is superior in every way to the primitive design of Mitsubishi's. Heck, Mitsubishi's AWD is nothing more than a FWD setup that has been adapted into a AWD setup.

[Numbchux]

True, you could definitely go with an L Coupe, but I think the 2.5RS has a nicer suspension setup, and an overall nicer look to it. Also, I dunno about you, but I prefer the GC line's coupes to that of the sedan, but I don't think the current Impreza design would've looked good in coupe form.

um....an L coupe is virtually identical to an RS, except with fewer luxury items (which comes out to about 200 lbs less weight)


not to mention RS coupes go for about twice as much as an L coupe.

[Flat 4 Racing]

um....an L coupe is virtually identical to an RS, except with fewer luxury items (which comes out to about 200 lbs less weight)


not to mention RS coupes go for about twice as much as an L coupe.

I believe the 2.5RS had a different front end design, different spoiler, better suspension (obviously better handling), brakes, and other options.

Just be careful which model you buy, because Subaru did make some models with FWD drivetrains in the GC line, I believe.

Here's a link to information on the 1998 Impreza models that I found with some information on differentiation between them.

http://www.cars101.com/impreza_archive97_98.html

[Numbchux]

I believe the 2.5RS had a different front end design, different spoiler, better suspension (obviously better handling), brakes, and other options.

Just be careful which model you buy, because Subaru did make some models with FWD drivetrains in the GC line, I believe.

Here's a link to information on the 1998 Impreza models that I found with some information on differentiation between them.

http://www.cars101.com/impreza_archive97_98.html

yep, but subarus = legos. and if you're upgrading it anyway, the springs, struts, sway bars, etc. are all getting replaced anyway.

AWD conversion is easy. did it on my loyale, and helped do it with my buddies '95 L. again, if you're going bigtime, tranny and rear suspension isn't that much more work.

RS front bumper is a bolt-on mod, ditto different shaped headlights, grill, and hood. and, once again, if you're doing a big swap, you might as well get a jdm clip and use the aluminum hood, and other parts on there.

[Flat 4 Racing]

yep, but subarus = legos. and if you're upgrading it anyway, the springs, struts, sway bars, etc. are all getting replaced anyway.

AWD conversion is easy. did it on my loyale, and helped do it with my buddies '95 L. again, if you're going bigtime, tranny and rear suspension isn't that much more work.

RS front bumper is a bolt-on mod, ditto different shaped headlights, grill, and hood. and, once again, if you're doing a big swap, you might as well get a jdm clip and use the aluminum hood, and other parts on there.

Someone once told me that a Subaru could be put together with only 10mm and 13mm wrenches. I'm yet to find someone willing to prove that theory, but if you're up to it, go for it! :D

[Numbchux]

Someone once told me that a Subaru could be put together with only 10mm and 13mm wrenches. I'm yet to find someone willing to prove that theory, but if you're up to it, go for it! :D

SOOOO wrong. there isn't a single 13mm anything on the car.

but, 10, 12, 14, 17, and 19 would get almost everything on the car. 22 for the crank pulley, 32 for the axle nuts (or 36 on EA cars).

[Flat 4 Racing]

SOOOO wrong. there isn't a single 13mm anything on the car.

but, 10, 12, 14, 17, and 19 would get almost everything on the car. 22 for the crank pulley, 32 for the axle nuts (or 36 on EA cars).

Go for it! And then you can tell me all about it! :lol: