SwedishRacer
09-05-2004, 05:26 PM
First this is from xmodworld.com,, whiteboy some number, came up with it. i think it is good, remember i just go around to alll the sites and find good tuts!!!!!! and of course help people!
Okay, many people are trying to drift, but are ultimately failing. I know that there has been a lot of controversy on this topic lately, and I want everyone to know, this topic isnt intended to start a flame war. This is just some helpful info, and tips on how-to drift. This may not work for everyone, but Ive easily drifted, using these tips, on many cars. Thanks and hopes this helps you drift. And if you already can, maybe I can teach you an easier way.
Drifting FAQ
What is Drifting?
Simply put, drifting is losing traction in the rear tires and making the car go sideways, while still keeping the car under control.
What Motor is a good choice for drifting?
Basically, you want a motor with loads of torque, so you can break traction easily.
Whats a good choice of tires to use?
Anything hard, with little or no tread (at least on the rear).
Suspension... what should I use?
The best setup Ive found, is hard in the front, medium in the back, with battery cases pushed all the way forward.
What Setup, is the best for drifting?
Many people, have many different setups for their drifter. This is one of the best Ive found. *Note*- some of this was talked about above (must mean its important!).
What you'll need:
A Good, High Torque Motor
The First step into drifting, is picking a good motor. High Torque is mainly what we are looking for. There are many motors to choose from. Remember, lots of winds= torque, stronger magnets= torque, etc. Some motors I recommend are 180, 260, and 280 sized motors. Then again, Ive done amazing stuff, with a s2 with neodynium magnets, and a ball-bearing case and endbell. Some say a motor with a bigger capacitor, increases torque, but I cant confirm that. So whatever motor you choose, make it TORQUED OUT! ...
Tires, Tires, Tire Setups
One of the most important things to drifters, is Whats being planted on the ground. AKA, the rubber tires. Like I said earlier, we need stiffness. Lets just throw out the soft treaded, soft slick, and stock tires right now. We are left with hard slicks and treads. Go ahead and try all the combinations with them, Ive found the best setup is HARD TREAD IN BACK AND HARD SLICK IN FRONT. Although that may seem weird try it. You will more than likely not drift at first, which is 100% normal. We need to break them in. Consider racing the car around the room, on about 2 or 3 sets of batteries. You will notice a loss in traction, but nothing major. Try this on a fresh set of batteries. Start driving around the room, all throttle, and turning a certain way (which ever way your X does sharper). You will hopefully spin out, in a small circle, where the front wheels will basically stop and just spin, but the back wheels are sliding to the side. Stay like that for about 2 minutes to fully break in your tires for drifting (I CAN NOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH). (see pick below, about spinning out).
Do not take your tires off after this, or you'll have to start all over. You suddenly realize, the decrease, in the rear traction of the car. So just remember, GO HARD! ...
4x4 and Ball-Bearings
This is a very important item in drifting as well. The all wheel drive, will insure, that you will have some control of the drift. I recommend, using the stock diff, instead of the LSD. The bearings, reduce friction, and the benefit is obvious. All you need in CONTROL! ...
The Power To Move This Beast
Ive found that voltage doesnt really matter, when it comes to drifting. I can do flawless drifts, with 4.8V. I think a 5 or 6 cell, would be too much weight in car for drifting though. Then li-ion comes into the picture. I can only imagine, that adding li-ion, to drift car, will only make it better... if not a burden to control. Think WEIGHT, NOT POWER! ...
Suspension And Options
Suspension and other items, play a big part in drifting also. Try hard in the front, with medium or soft in the back. Also, dont forget to move your battery packs, all the way forward, for less weight, on the rear end of the car. Also, try a 4.5 degree tie rod. A big-roll is played by SUSPENSION! ...
Driving Surface
Any low grip surface will make it easier to drift. Linoleum is my favorite, but hard wood and laminate floors, work good also. Think of the SURFACE! ...
Other
Dont forget about some other stuff. Remember, to put your controller on high, and keep the steering range up. Take your car apart often, and grease it up a little. Little things, make a HUGE DIFFERENCE!
Techniques
There are many ways to drift. Some like to just gun it in the corners, cross their fingers, and hope they have enough momentum to slide through it. Others, go into a corner, at about 3/4 their top speed, then halfway through the turn, fully pull the throttle, and watch the X slide. I can be at a complete stop, gun it, turn real quick, and drift... all from a complete stop! As you can see there are many ways. Drift how ever you feel COMFORTABLE!
Optional
There are some items, that im thinking of now, that might help in drifting. Wide track bearings and the "Tite-Turnz" kit came to mind. Possibly a weight reduction. But like I said, you have OPTIONS!
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Im not swearing that this will make you drift, but it makes it 100 times easier, if you follow ALL the items discussed.
How about we make this, where people can post pics of their videos of drifting, or tell us their setup.
Please everybody, feel free to comment on and criticize on this thread. Ive put about 2 or 3 hours on to this and wanted it to be its best. I will even go in and edit this post, to add anything that I may have left out, that someone may want me to add in... NO FLAMERS PLEASE!
Thanks,
Whiteboy101, xmodworld! :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod:
Okay, many people are trying to drift, but are ultimately failing. I know that there has been a lot of controversy on this topic lately, and I want everyone to know, this topic isnt intended to start a flame war. This is just some helpful info, and tips on how-to drift. This may not work for everyone, but Ive easily drifted, using these tips, on many cars. Thanks and hopes this helps you drift. And if you already can, maybe I can teach you an easier way.
Drifting FAQ
What is Drifting?
Simply put, drifting is losing traction in the rear tires and making the car go sideways, while still keeping the car under control.
What Motor is a good choice for drifting?
Basically, you want a motor with loads of torque, so you can break traction easily.
Whats a good choice of tires to use?
Anything hard, with little or no tread (at least on the rear).
Suspension... what should I use?
The best setup Ive found, is hard in the front, medium in the back, with battery cases pushed all the way forward.
What Setup, is the best for drifting?
Many people, have many different setups for their drifter. This is one of the best Ive found. *Note*- some of this was talked about above (must mean its important!).
What you'll need:
A Good, High Torque Motor
The First step into drifting, is picking a good motor. High Torque is mainly what we are looking for. There are many motors to choose from. Remember, lots of winds= torque, stronger magnets= torque, etc. Some motors I recommend are 180, 260, and 280 sized motors. Then again, Ive done amazing stuff, with a s2 with neodynium magnets, and a ball-bearing case and endbell. Some say a motor with a bigger capacitor, increases torque, but I cant confirm that. So whatever motor you choose, make it TORQUED OUT! ...
Tires, Tires, Tire Setups
One of the most important things to drifters, is Whats being planted on the ground. AKA, the rubber tires. Like I said earlier, we need stiffness. Lets just throw out the soft treaded, soft slick, and stock tires right now. We are left with hard slicks and treads. Go ahead and try all the combinations with them, Ive found the best setup is HARD TREAD IN BACK AND HARD SLICK IN FRONT. Although that may seem weird try it. You will more than likely not drift at first, which is 100% normal. We need to break them in. Consider racing the car around the room, on about 2 or 3 sets of batteries. You will notice a loss in traction, but nothing major. Try this on a fresh set of batteries. Start driving around the room, all throttle, and turning a certain way (which ever way your X does sharper). You will hopefully spin out, in a small circle, where the front wheels will basically stop and just spin, but the back wheels are sliding to the side. Stay like that for about 2 minutes to fully break in your tires for drifting (I CAN NOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH). (see pick below, about spinning out).
Do not take your tires off after this, or you'll have to start all over. You suddenly realize, the decrease, in the rear traction of the car. So just remember, GO HARD! ...
4x4 and Ball-Bearings
This is a very important item in drifting as well. The all wheel drive, will insure, that you will have some control of the drift. I recommend, using the stock diff, instead of the LSD. The bearings, reduce friction, and the benefit is obvious. All you need in CONTROL! ...
The Power To Move This Beast
Ive found that voltage doesnt really matter, when it comes to drifting. I can do flawless drifts, with 4.8V. I think a 5 or 6 cell, would be too much weight in car for drifting though. Then li-ion comes into the picture. I can only imagine, that adding li-ion, to drift car, will only make it better... if not a burden to control. Think WEIGHT, NOT POWER! ...
Suspension And Options
Suspension and other items, play a big part in drifting also. Try hard in the front, with medium or soft in the back. Also, dont forget to move your battery packs, all the way forward, for less weight, on the rear end of the car. Also, try a 4.5 degree tie rod. A big-roll is played by SUSPENSION! ...
Driving Surface
Any low grip surface will make it easier to drift. Linoleum is my favorite, but hard wood and laminate floors, work good also. Think of the SURFACE! ...
Other
Dont forget about some other stuff. Remember, to put your controller on high, and keep the steering range up. Take your car apart often, and grease it up a little. Little things, make a HUGE DIFFERENCE!
Techniques
There are many ways to drift. Some like to just gun it in the corners, cross their fingers, and hope they have enough momentum to slide through it. Others, go into a corner, at about 3/4 their top speed, then halfway through the turn, fully pull the throttle, and watch the X slide. I can be at a complete stop, gun it, turn real quick, and drift... all from a complete stop! As you can see there are many ways. Drift how ever you feel COMFORTABLE!
Optional
There are some items, that im thinking of now, that might help in drifting. Wide track bearings and the "Tite-Turnz" kit came to mind. Possibly a weight reduction. But like I said, you have OPTIONS!
_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_
Im not swearing that this will make you drift, but it makes it 100 times easier, if you follow ALL the items discussed.
How about we make this, where people can post pics of their videos of drifting, or tell us their setup.
Please everybody, feel free to comment on and criticize on this thread. Ive put about 2 or 3 hours on to this and wanted it to be its best. I will even go in and edit this post, to add anything that I may have left out, that someone may want me to add in... NO FLAMERS PLEASE!
Thanks,
Whiteboy101, xmodworld! :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: