XXX: Project Rusty Bug

[TripleXmodder(akaXXX)]

Well, this is my new project and I have a lot of passion for the build.. I am converting my Rustler chassis to a Buggy.

With the high cost of all the parts, you may ask... why not just buy a Buggy? Well, that's no fun and I got a Rustler roller sitting here doing nothing.

I did some google searching and found a bunch of similar conversions. Here is a Link to a sweet Rustler to Buggy Conversion by: Jones8352 on the Traxxas Forums.
http://traxxas.com/forums/showthread.php?8896857-Rustler-buggy

My build will be similar, however I will be using a proline Bulldog B44.1 body instead of the Crowd Pleazer.

The paint scheme, will be: Body- WHITE, black, pink baby blue.. a bit of yellow.. I will use a Yellow Proline wing, like in the above thread. Brushless, 2.4ghz ..etc, etc.

I will probably be getting part by part slowly, so the build should take awhile..... OR NOT.

[dreamingISdrifting]

Awesome, Drop the integy shock tower and get an STRC one, drop the VXL and get A Sidewinder SCT system, and your all set to go =D Happy modding!

-DiD

[TripleXmodder(akaXXX)]

Awesome, Drop the integy shock tower and get an STRC one, drop the VXL and get A Sidewinder SCT system, and your all set to go =D Happy modding!

-DiD

Ill checkout the STRC tower, but I went with the VXL to save some $, I plan to upgrade it later when some more cash comes.. I figured I could find a VXL at a good price because Im sure people have pulled them from there Traxxas trucks to upgrade. We'll see, If I can get enough cash Ill get a better Brushless system. Did you check out the thread I posted of the other conversion.? it's sweet.

[dreamingISdrifting]

Just for the record, Integy is a hit or miss company, you either get quality parts or buttery weak ones. And the sidewinder is a good $30+ cheaper than the VXL for a new system, and much more powerful and flexible, http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXAETT&P=ML , and No, I havent seen your other conversion, I will have to check it out =)

[TripleXmodder(akaXXX)]

Just for the record, Integy is a hit or miss company, you either get quality parts or buttery weak ones. And the sidewinder is a good $30+ cheaper than the VXL for a new system, and much more powerful and flexible, http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXAETT&P=ML , and No, I havent seen your other conversion, I will have to check it out =)

Oh didn't realize it was cheaper.. Ill definately check it out. It wasn't my conversion... in my first post of this thread I put a link to a thread that someone else did with doing a Rustler-Buggy conversion... it has photos and it is sweeeeeet.. scroll up, hit the link and check it. Thanks did for the help... Im 100% new to brushless.

[TripleXmodder(akaXXX)]

Awesome, Drop the integy shock tower and get an STRC one, drop the VXL and get A Sidewinder SCT system, and your all set to go =D Happy modding!

-DiD

Took your suggestion and got the side winder.. So far this is everything I got. Ordered all this today and can't wait for it all to get here.

First off here is the Rustler roller chassis I am working with and a set of body clip retainer bands.
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/2011-01-09_175930.jpg

Castle Creations Sidewinder Sport 1/10/CMS5700 ESC Motor Combo
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/CSESDWCMS5700-2.jpg

Traxxas Servo, digital high-torque (ball bearing), waterproof
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/TRA2075-2.jpg

Spektrum DSM 3CH Rx w/ Telemetry: Surface (I should be able to use this with the Losi Stock 2.4ghz transmiter, from what my research tells me.. save me some $$ for right now)
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/SPMSR3300T-2.jpg

Venom LiPo 3S 11.1V 4000mAh 20C Universal System
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/VNR1580-2.jpg

Xtreme Racing G-10 Low CG Chassis Kit, Black
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/XTR10619B-2.jpg

Traxxas Turnbuckle Set Rustler/Stampede Alum Red
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/TRA3741X-2.jpg

Traxxas Gear 19T 48P W/Set Screw Steel
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/TRA2419-2.jpg

Integy T8029SILVER Metal Spur Gear 84T
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/INTT8029SILVER-2.jpg

Traxxas Wheelie Bar Assembly
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/TRA3678-2.png

Pro-Line BullDog Clear Body: B44.1
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/PRO334300-2.jpg

Pro-Line 1/8 High Downforce Wing Yellow
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/PRO602302-2.jpg

Set of 4 wheels/Tires for Traxxas Bandit (Got these used.. Im gonna get a few more sets of dish wheels on my next order)
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/CBPbiWQCWkKGrHqZg4Ezd209YsgBNG1sCFPVQ_12.jpg

These is what I still want to get:

-Aluminum knuckles and casters (front and rear)
-STRC Aluminum front/rear shock towers)
-Better shocks.. want to get the shocks from the Losi 8ight-E
-Aluminum transmission case
-new set of RPM arms (front and rear)
-few sets of dish wheels and off/on road tires
-Possibly some wheel extenders.. wanna see how it goes without first
-Lipo charger for 11.1v 3s ... (gonna be borrowing a friends for right now)

[TripleXmodder(akaXXX)]

Little update.. My order should be here Saturday or Monday.. can't wait to start building. Im also ordering a new Tamiya TB-03 1/10 Rc car kit.. can not wait to start assembling that one.

[dreamingISdrifting]

Awesome, its nice to see this project coming together! Everything should be pretty good! What Sidewinder system did you get? It doesnt matter which one you got cause it will keep make happy either way, but the 5700 will run a tad hotter. And make sure to keep your Pinion/Spur gear slightly lubed! Metal on metal meshing likes to heat up so it will help out a bit, Integy Spurs are known to strip when hot, I dont speak from personal experience but I'm sure it should be fine.

[mycrors4]

according to the part number he got the 5700kv

ill be watching this build, looks like its gonna be good

[TripleXmodder(akaXXX)]

Awesome, its nice to see this project coming together! Everything should be pretty good! What Sidewinder system did you get? It doesnt matter which one you got cause it will keep make happy either way, but the 5700 will run a tad hotter. And make sure to keep your Pinion/Spur gear slightly lubed! Metal on metal meshing likes to heat up so it will help out a bit, Integy Spurs are known to strip when hot, I dont speak from personal experience but I'm sure it should be fine.


Yeah I got the 5700kv... I was going to go with the 4600kv for more control and handling... but I pulled up the gear/speed chart from castle creations and decided that If I want to tone the speed down, I can just change the spur pinion set-up.. but if I want I can get this going up to 60mph..

Any suggestions on monitoring temperature.. I have an old digital temp gauge from my nitro days... Do you have a suggestion on the lube. Thanks guys.

[dreamingISdrifting]

When your stuff arrives, just take some temp checks on the motor from the first one or two runs. 145*-170* is usually optimal temps when driving, anything 175~*+ is starting to push the motor, but chances are if your not racing it or are doing ballistic speed runs it shouldn't be an issue. Just remember that the outside of the motor will almost be in all scenarios, cooler than the inside. IF its under 145* you could gear up and not worry about it, but if its any higher than 175* gearing down is to be considered. As for the lube, I would recomend MOO Slick, it works really well and keeps the dirt form bulding up. Otherwise a very thin film of lithium grease or black grease will be fine.

[TripleXmodder(akaXXX)]

So if im suppose to check the temperature inside, how do you check it.

[mycrors4]

well, think of it this way, if its 150f degrees outside, its ~15-20 degrees hotter inside, making it 170 degrees

you want the inside to stay under 180, so try to stay below 160F for the outside temp, there is no way to tell how hot the inside is unless u take apart the motor, and by the time you do that, it woulda cooled down

[dreamingISdrifting]

Basically what Mycro just said. It's like being outside with a jacket on, obviously inside of the jacket is hotter than the outside of the jacket. Just give it some 10*-15* leeway of heat, and estimate what your motor is running at.

[TripleXmodder(akaXXX)]

Ok, first off let me start by saying.. Im a doof.. I had a Brain Fart when I decided on the bulldog body.. becasuse it is a 1/10 body, and Im converting this into 1/8.. So I decided to go with the Proline slip stream.. I love this body even more anyway. Here she is...
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/538.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/536.jpg

And to my EXCITMENT.. a HUGE box of stuff arrived yesterday.. I started the assembly but I wait a little bit before I get those photos up.
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/2011-01-17_175048.jpg

[TripleXmodder(akaXXX)]

If there is anyone left around whos interested... I have an update (LOL)

So, I got the STRC chassis all mounted on the stock front and rear end.. Simple enough even though the STRC kit was missing some screws and I had to search around for some that would work.
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/2011-01-17_192621.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/2011-01-17_204629.jpg
A shot of the rear end with the Sidewinder and wheelie bar.
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/2011-01-17_204642.jpg
And the Integy Spur, and I got the Red aluminum adjustable camber links on all 4 corners..
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/2011-01-18_123153.jpg
Made a battery tray with the parts the STRC came with (cut one side open) and some velcro strap instead of the clip downs (SUCK) Also I made a tray for the ESC to sit on, from an Xmod case (So there is a little Xmod in this..Kinda)
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/2011-01-18_123143.jpg
This is a temporary tray for my receiver.. I got a waterproof traxxas case on the way.
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/2011-01-18_130656.jpg
Oh yeah, the Servo is in.. Just need the saver..
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/2011-01-18_132221.jpg
An overhead shot of everything..
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/2011-01-18_132229.jpg
Got the wing mounted, and that's about all I can do until I get the rest of the stuff....
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/2011-01-18_143438.jpg

So Im gonna be doing the front widening mod to this... Basically putting rear arms up front... here's a good read.. the tutorial of the mod by Jang: http://www.ultimatetraxxas.com/misc/jang-rustler-stampede-wide-mod/

I plan on dropping to a 2s 7.4v Lipo and a 16T pinion so I don't drive through a brick wall...

I would really like to thank Jones8352 from the Traxxas site for helping me out on this build and giving me some good tips. Go up top to my first post and click the link to his Rustler Buggy... it's SWEEET.

[TripleXmodder(akaXXX)]

AWSOME... got my 17mm wheel adapters and wheels in the mail today....

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/2011-01-20_113333.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/2011-01-20_114442.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/2011-01-20_114432.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/2011-01-20_114505.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/2011-01-20_114346.jpg

[mycrors4]

niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiicee!

but one question, the strc chassis is a rustler chassis, the 1/8th body is the length and width of the slash chassis
are you gonna cut up the body a lot?

[TripleXmodder(akaXXX)]

niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiicee!

but one question, the strc chassis is a rustler chassis, the 1/8th body is the length and width of the slash chassis
are you gonna cut up the body a lot?

Good question... but the STRC LCG chassis is extended for the Rustler.. it is exactly 1 3/4" longer and it's wider then the stock Rustler chassis, The slipstream should fit nice with slight modification.. If you read in the description on this link, it says EXTENDED.. it is an Xtreme Racing Chassis. http://www.rcplanet.com/Xtreme_RacingChassis_p/XTR10619B.htm

[mycrors4]

ahh
so its technically a lcg /backslash build

[dreamingISdrifting]

Dang thats pretty awesome! And technically it is a Rustler To 1/8 Buggy Conversion, theoretically it is a BackSlash conversion =P

[TripleXmodder(akaXXX)]

Well, a backslash is converting a Traxxas SLASH into a buggy, so no. This is a Rustler (2wd) into a Buggy. But similar.. eitherway it's turning somthing from Traxxas into a Buggy.

[mycrors4]

Well, a backslash is converting a Traxxas SLASH into a buggy, so no. This is a Rustler (2wd) into a Buggy. But similar.. eitherway it's turning somthing from Traxxas into a Buggy.

the slash is also 2wd

and u made it into a slash by buying a lcg chassis made for the slash, lol

[TripleXmodder(akaXXX)]

Well, I guess so... I thought the Slash was 4x4.. Anyway.. it is AWSOME>. I can't wait to go to the local track with her when she is done.

[TripleXmodder(akaXXX)]

Been awhile, but I have been working on other peoples cars. Here is an update.

Put rear A-arms up front.. I mounted the shocks to the inside.
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/2011-01-24_193609.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/2011-01-24_193622.jpg
So like a good buggy, all the wheels are even, and I can run front tires all around. Oh, and got my Slipstream Body.
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/2011-01-25_131323.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/2011-01-25_131317.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/2011-01-25_131253.jpg
Did some quick easy all black paint job and some decals.
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/2011-01-26_133019.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/2011-01-26_133050.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/2011-01-26_133126.jpg
My custom front body post mount, and CF shock tower..
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/2011-01-31_150416.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/2011-01-31_150432.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/2011-01-28_174009.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/2011-01-28_174727.jpg
Just for reference the Xtreme Racing chassis is 1 3/4" longer then the stock Rustler chassis, here is a comparison photo.
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/2011-01-30_162048.jpg
Im heading to the LHS to get some skid plates to take care of this.. TODAY.
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/2011-01-28_180642.jpg

Also, I ordered this.. HELLLLZZZZ YEAH.
http://www.xtremercracing.com/Store_Detail.cfm?ID=230250&InfoID=2995&ShowLarge=True

PROJECT RUSTY BUG..
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/2011-01-26_133134.jpg

I also, put rear shocks up front for some better suspension and travel.. But I am ordering a set of aluminum shocks from the Losi Ten-T.. Traxxas stock shocks SUCK, but doing good for right now.

[FloydfanYodaman]

wow man that came out great...really like the choice of black...it's a nice contrast with the neon wing...i wish the wheels were as neon as the wing, instead of being a little faded...does someone make neon springs to match?...i know neon may not be the right word but i think you see where i am coming from...reminds me of Monster color scheme...without all the Monster decals...good job on it...you must be psyched with how it came out :)

[fuzzy]

wow man that thing is sweet we need videoooooo!!!!!

i miss my old rustler now :(

off topic i see you have the vice that is held by a big suction cup and i was thinking about buying one but was unsure how it would hold up

[bosco72]

You need a nicer rear shock tower

[TripleXmodder(akaXXX)]

wow man that came out great...really like the choice of black...it's a nice contrast with the neon wing...i wish the wheels were as neon as the wing, instead of being a little faded...does someone make neon springs to match?...i know neon may not be the right word but i think you see where i am coming from...reminds me of Monster color scheme...without all the Monster decals...good job on it...you must be psyched with how it came out :)

Yeah, I got those wheels used on ebay.. I also have a black wing and white wheels which are for after these are no good. But im stocking up on wheels and tires. Im not to into the neon springs.. I just put the rated spring I wanted for performance on front and rear, didn't care about the color. Im not making a shelf queen this time around... It is gonna be very, very dirty soon enough.. and has already been a few times, during test runs... and thanks, glad you like it and Im VERY happy with it.. I love it.

wow man that thing is sweet we need videoooooo!!!!!

i miss my old rustler now :(

off topic i see you have the vice that is held by a big suction cup and i was thinking about buying one but was unsure how it would hold up

It has the suction cup, but I have it screwed to the table.. I love this little vise, works great for everything.

You need a nicer rear shock tower

Im going to get an RPM tower for the rear.

[dreamingISdrifting]

DANG! Now that thing is straight up LEGIT. That fronst shock tower is just a little scary though. Try not to flip the thing.

[TripleXmodder(akaXXX)]

Some updates...

Got my undertray/clamshell.. Love it.. protects the chassis and electronics.
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/2011-02-05_141112.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/2011-02-05_141151.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/2011-02-05_141241.jpg

Cleaned her up, put some skid plates on a new wing and some new wheels and tires... the first set were used ones I bought just for set up and testing during the build. I also put some new bearing carriers in the rear, giving me 1 degree of toe-in, and adjusted the camber and toe-in up front after some test runs at the track.
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/2011-02-05_141302.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/2011-02-05_141319.jpg

Took her to the track adter making some adjustments.. runs and handles great. Just can't wait to ditch those stock shocks, which keep coming unnscrewed.. happened like 3x that day. I just got my set of Pro-line powertroke shocks in the mail.. a bit on the expensive side but well worth it.. I also am selling the 5700kv motor which is a little much kv for this larger application of the Rustler.. I ordered a 3800kv. Also some other bits like... aluminum bellcrank, aluminum STRC front bulkhead and shock tower, and a RPM rear shock tower. Right now the car is completely broken down waiting for the parts to arrive and getting cleaned up.

Landing coming off the far right jump..
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/rustlerjumparrow.jpg
Same photo voomed out for a better view of the track.
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/2011-02-07_122023.jpg
Looks like im to nose down, but that hill slopes down on the back side, and this is coming off the lower jump (bottom left) and over the top one.. good landing angle.
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/2011-02-07_122425-Copy.jpg
Glamor shot... Ill have the video camera with me next time.
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/2011-02-07_115206.jpg


PS- don't forget this is for sale on my FS thread.. fast motor.
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/theredmanfamily/2011-02-09_115717.jpg