August 08'-09' Build Off: 86 Monte Carlo

[snowboi1289]

I really want planning on coming back to this forum, but I couple people asked me to atleast try to post. I'm going to tell anybody, if you have a negative comment that you know I wont like, then just email it to me, or say it in a good way, instead of saying, "Your car suck's, because it has rust!!", I will ask that member(s) to please edit there post and add atleast something nice. I dont want a flame thread/bash thread/or any other kinda thread that will result in thread delteion due to flame,bash, ect..


Ok, let me start, I bought this car March 31, 2009. It was still raining when I axtually got the car, and when I was looking over everything at my house. It was starting to really get bad, so I just left the battery on charge while in the car (for some reason, the guy never told me that the alternator voltage regulator was bad, he didnt even say it would go dead, doesnt matter).

Theres more rust than I actually seen first, but I'll work on it when the rain finally stops, which might not ever happen, its contantly raining.

Heres some more specs.
87 Camaro IROK 350 engine, bored .30.
Edelbrock carb.

Heres a couple pictures:

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i29/snowboi1289/19986%20Monte%20Carlo/IMG_2125.jpg
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i29/snowboi1289/19986%20Monte%20Carlo/IMG_2126.jpg
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i29/snowboi1289/19986%20Monte%20Carlo/IMG_2127.jpg

And heres a picture of my Monte Carlo next to my friends 85 Fleetwood:
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i29/snowboi1289/19986%20Monte%20Carlo/IMG_2128.jpg

I'll keep the people that are nice updated, for everybody that reply that just wanna say crap, I'll just ignore your posts.

[TheB1GDude]

Nice!! Your gonna have tons of fun with that!!

[mustanglover]

looks nice, time to get to work and make it drag spec.

[snowboi1289]

I've already had tons of fun, I now have like 10 new friends, just from the auto parts store! 3 people wanna help me with it, and help by painting interior parts.

I'm sure my x-girlfriend is mad, because I'm getting eye's on everything I do. I can tell, she's not happy, she's prolly talking behind my back.

Edit: Nope, not trying to make it look more like a drag car, the more I do, the more the cops will be watching my every move. I had a video of it, but the camera box got wet, and I couldnt do it in the rain without the camera box.

[2jack3jack]

just spend all of your money on the engine and make it mean. who needs suspintion when you can run a 10 sec quarter mile lol

[snowboi1289]

The engine is fine, I'm going to try to rebuild the alternator myself, but if I miss up then that would suck. I can get my current alternator rebuilt for like $47. With new brushes, bushings, all that good stuff. If I can just get the stupid Maxima fixed right, I will get the $200. I need to get the tag. I'm currently using the old tag from the Maxima. I dont wanna spend all the money on the car, I still need to save up for a new home, and I need to pay my mom back from the Maxima wreck.

[2jack3jack]

now we should race ill be in flordia this summer im just saying lol jk

[snowboi1289]

No street racing, I'm 90% against street racing. But if you wanna pay for a track, sure, theres no track around where I live though.

[mustanglover]

what does the other 10% say? LoL

[texan_idiot25]

Another self contradicting statement, of course.

[2jack3jack]

that other 10% is testing out the gas petal

[ling427ttvette]

First off, using the tag from another vehicle? Wow dude, wow. I hope you get pulled over. I didn't even drive my Camaro until I had a tag for it when I bought it. Only driving I did was transporting it home, and that was only because I had a bill of sale saying I bought it that day.

Secondly, 2jack, do you know that it takes a highly modified suspension to be able to run a 10 second quarter? Probably not.. but it does.

All of that aside, I love that generation of Monte's.. and from the pictures provided it looks to be alright. I still think the car is going to nickel and dime you to death. Funny how you found out about the alternator after you bought it because he didn't tell you.. wonder what else he didn't tell you about? That's the worst thing about buying used from private sellers.

Whatever money you plan on saving for a house, I wish you luck.. because all your money will go to this car.

[2jack3jack]

ling it was a joke about how people say american cars are only good for going in strait line. wats your beef with me. also believe it or not i do know a bit about cars considering i built my camaro myself. also sno love the monte there is a blue one near my house i want it

[AJB32690]

Ah. I must admit, I am jealous. I really want one of these GM boxes. Preferably an Olds 442, but I would consider a Monte too.

I wish you luck on this project. You might need it.

[Lucky7]

I love the 80's Monte Carlos.

[fordman239]

not too shabby. i like it. i love the ss fiberglass front ends on them too, not bad at all. someday, it could look like this

http://img.inkfrog.com/pix/monaco/85MonteCarloSS_26k_medium.JPG

[snowboi1289]

I dont know why, but I dont really like the black Monte Carlo's (80's). I dont drive it around, well, I go went down to the gas station just to put some gas into her, everybody just cant get enough of it. I dont have any tag for it yet, because the car is in my name and I need to have the tag into my name also.

I decided to look under the nasty carpet that somebody did not install right (not stock), I found a nice treat, *Rust*, not that bad at all, just a couple large holes. It was poring down rain all this week, but it finally stopped, so I worked all through the night/morning to get it taken apart and ready for treatment (rust treatment, will replace when I have the money to buy new floor pans). Took out all the seats, all the carpet, just nasty. It was like new, but the guy actually used it as a trash can, one open bottle may have ruined that part of the carpet.

I will try to get to the bank today to get some cash (lost my debit card), then buy some rubberized spray paint, more rust treatment, a bunch of interior bulbs, and some exterior bulbs.

The carb. needs tunning, the oil needs to be changed, the alternator needs to be rebuilt (new voltage regulator), and a new tag and it will be ready for the road. For some reason, the speedo doesnt stay still, it just bounces, will have to figure out, also it doesnt show the RPM's.

Heres some great pictures of rust on the pans:
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i29/snowboi1289/19986%20Monte%20Carlo/1986%20Monte%20Carlo/IMG_2135.jpg
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i29/snowboi1289/19986%20Monte%20Carlo/1986%20Monte%20Carlo/IMG_2135.jpg
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i29/snowboi1289/19986%20Monte%20Carlo/1986%20Monte%20Carlo/IMG_2138.jpg
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i29/snowboi1289/19986%20Monte%20Carlo/1986%20Monte%20Carlo/IMG_2137.jpg
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i29/snowboi1289/19986%20Monte%20Carlo/1986%20Monte%20Carlo/IMG_2139.jpg

Also rebuilt the windshield wiper motor assm., but it still doesnt go too fast, a lil' time and I'll fix it, might just be a loose wire or bad relay:
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i29/snowboi1289/19986%20Monte%20Carlo/1986%20Monte%20Carlo/IMG_2134.jpg

[suicide_star]

i'd spray all that down with rust killer and let it sit for a little bit...then hit it with the grinder really good...pick up some sheet metal from a hardware store and get a hammer and bet them to shape where the need to go and silicone/rivet them down for the time being, unless you know a welder. those floor pans are still salvageable. if you do spray the rubberized undercoating stuff in there, it takes roughly 3 days to cure

[bondo]

take my advice, SLOW DOWN!
your getting a bit too antsy in your pantsy.
devide the car into sections,pick something to work on and stick with it otherwise your going to end up with a huge parts pile scattered about wich usually results in lost parts/screws/bolts and/or forgetting how it goes back together wich results in extra parts/screws/bolts..
you've got enough work in the floorboards that you don't need to be working on the wiper motors.

the best tip i can give you is to prioritize and take your time.
you need to decide if your going to make this a driver or a resto.
if it's going to be a driver then your already going a bit too far.
if it's a resto then you need'nt worry about bulbs right now.

talk to people that know the goins on before you go diving head first into something you know little about.
the reason that i say this is because your already taking 2 steps back for one forward.
some "rust treatment" and rubberized undercoating are not going to cut it.
all that does is create an uber sticky pain in the *** bandaid for the next guy to rip into it.
if you do it right the first time then it wont have to be done again and noone will have to curse you for your BS bandaid.
even if it's you that's going to have to go back and do it again, save yourself a headache, spend 100$ on supplies and do it right.

sand and grind all of that off,paint,rust, all of it.
brush on some ospho let it do it's thing.
sand,grind again and then PAINT it.
put the undercoating ontop of the paint.

then, when it comes time to pull the carpet back up to fix the holes properly,all you have to do is grind a small ring around where your patch is going to go instead of having to do it all over again.

[snowboi1289]

I dont have much money right now, I know I cant get anykind of sheet metal, because I cant cut it and I dont have a grinder. I need a dremal (if thats how you spell it). I've been spraying the trunk with rust killer, and most of the core support, I may need prolly 2-4 cans of the rust treatment/rust killer.

Right now, I have no way to get to my bank, I have bikes but they all have flat tires, I can walk, but it seems like a bad idea. I would walk, but I'm kinda wanting the time to work on the car while I can.

I'm going to get a small video of the Monte Carlo after all the interior is back in. I cleaned everything but the carpet, I mean I tried to clean it, 5 times. But that thing is just annoying, theres a big gunk/sticky spot from where a open mountain dew bottle used to be (from the guy that sold it to me used it as a trash can basicly). I'm going to sell more and more so I can try to quickly get the money for the tag, because I really would love to drive it now. I can drive it down to the gas station down my street with no problem (because I am getting gas or filling my tires), the cops even said it was ok, unless I'm filling the car up to go somewhere else, that would be a problem. Also if I were to just go get a drink instead of gas or air in the tire, they would have to give me a ticket.

The first car show around here I will go to no matter what, but I have to have a tag ofcourse.

Theres a leak somewhere by the back windows , I have to take that trim off to seal it, but theres a problem, the thing I used to un-screw the seat belt screws got striped, so that is going to be a problem, because I've tried everything else with it, all the screw drivers, lets just say everything.

Edit: What, bondo, I already put the wiper motors back in. It was way before I started on the interior. And about the screws, I have them in bags with a letter, or just where they go. Fuc* it man, I'm just going to walk up to the bank, and get some money. I'm going to do a temp. job, and then when I get all that money from the Maxima payments, I'll go ahead and get new floor pans. I dont have $100. now, and if I did, I wouldnt spend it all on the floor pans which arent too bad, I mean theres holes, I just gotta watch out for large puddles. I'm going to put something over it so it wont get wet inside, but the floor pans will be removed once I have enough money and somebody to weld everything (or I can have a stroke of luck and find a good cheap welder, or even barrow one).

Edit, again: Sorry, just read the top part of your post, its going to be both, resto/daily driver. Theres no problem driving while its getting restored. I'm not going to do stuff like I did in the Maxima, take it off roading go out on long trips, just drive around for no reason, do modifications that make it look extremely ricey, ect. (I cant go on for hours, but I'll stop).

[bondo]

just about the only way to get the torx bolt out if it's stripped is to weld a bolt to it and torch the threads since there installed at 30ft. pounds.

and no, you can't drive an untagged car ANYWHERE.
it doesnt matter if your testing the new brakes you just put on it.
an unliscensed car CAN NOT leave your driveway unless under tow.
they make gas cans and air tanks for a reason.;)

and no, you can't just pop the trim off the back window and squirt something in there.
if there's water in there then there's rust.
if there's rust then the hole is only going to get bigger.
this is the kinda stuff i'm talking about man.
with the help of a freind,a piano/guitar string,a days worth of work,leftover ospho from the floor pans and a $15 tube of butyl you could have it done right and probably never have to worry about it again.

edit to relpy to his edit....;)
if you're broke then stop everything that your doing,get it roadworthy,get it tagged,get a job and start saving.
all your doing now is making things worse and wasting time.



Edit: What, bondo, I already put the wiper motors back in. It was way before I started on the interior. And about the screws, I have them in bags with a letter, or just where they go. Fuc* it man, I'm just going to walk up to the bank, and get some money. I'm going to do a temp. job, and then when I get all that money from the Maxima payments, I'll go ahead and get new floor pans. I dont have $100. now, and if I did, I wouldnt spend it all on the floor pans which arent too bad, I mean theres holes, I just gotta watch out for large puddles. I'm going to put something over it so it wont get wet inside, but the floor pans will be removed once I have enough money and somebody to weld everything (or I can have a stroke of luck and find a good cheap welder, or even barrow one).

Edit, again: Sorry, just read the top part of your post, its going to be both, resto/daily driver. Theres no problem driving while its getting restored. I'm not going to do stuff like I did in the Maxima, take it off roading go out on long trips, just drive around for no reason, do modifications that make it look extremely ricey, ect. (I cant go on for hours, but I'll stop).

that's the thing man, it can't really be a resto AND a daily.
there's too much stuff that needs to be done to that car and most of it is going to take a week or more at a time, AND MONEY.
if you need a driver then fix little cheap stuff that NEEDS it and start saving.

[AJB32690]

if you're broke then stop everything that your doing,get it roadworthy,get it tagged,get a job and start saving.
all your doing now is making things worse and wasting time.

Agreed.

I would listen to Bondo if I were you. You aren't going to be able to make this a show car on a limited budget. Just fix what needs to be fixed in order for it to be a reliable driver, get it registered and insured and then get a job and save up. Then when you have the money, fix it the right way, instead of using "instant magical cure-all elixirs."

[snowboi1289]

It is considered a resto job, because right now its not drivable or reliable. I need to be 100% sure there will not be anymore water coming in the car, so no more large rust parts, although the chances of rust building up near the rear seats will be almost impossible, because the seats will soak up the water and start to stink. I didnt mean the rear window, I ment both side rear windows, I've got to send some stuff from ebay and see all what I have left, but chances are I have to get some more money.

I walked for more than 5 hours yesterday, just to get some money from the bank, from a friends house and to get the rust crap and the rubberized paint for the underbody. I know what your saying exactly bondo, I understand, I'm not stupid, just going to leave it the way it is and hope it doesnt get worse because I know it will. I would have to say prolly in June or sooner I'll have enough money to get new floor pans, core support, and most of the other stuff I need. I'm going to end up removing the Edlebrock carb/intake, because it takes too much gas. I've tunned it, messed with it, and it still doesnt just start up in the morning like it should, I have to hit the gas a couple times to get it to fire properly, still doesnt really matter though.

I will be glad when I finally get this thing registered. I'm not sure if I already said it, but the cops here (whihc are mostly as*es all the time, will let me go to the gas, but not like every day or every week, I havent had to get gas yet, I got some already. Basicly, I have to call a cop before I go).

I'm 100% sure I will be going to car shows even if the condition isnt that great.

[texan_idiot25]

If you have no tools to cut and no skills to weld, why are you buying a floor pan? That rust is very minimal and would only need patch panels. As minor as cutting a square out, cutting a square of new metal, and welding it in.

Stop driving it with out tags, and insurance. I would hope you learned that lesson the last time.

You need to take a step back, and make a check list of what needs to be done. It's called the punch list. Your going many different directions. Yes there is a problem with restoring a daily driver, it won't be a reliable thing to restore. Putting your work against the clock makes you rush which makes your quality of work go down. Your definition of Restoration must be very off if you think it can be a daily driver. Many "resto" projects like rust repair, and mechanical work can, and probably will take more than a weekend.

Just take your time and don't cut corners. Because, being in that car's next buyer's position, it is a pain in the *** to cover for the last guy's rigging crap.

There is no rush if the car isn't legal. The Chevy took 2 years, and it was worth waiting that 2 years to get everything done right.

I've tunned it, messed with it, and it still doesnt just start up in the morning like it should, I have to hit the gas a couple times to get it to fire properly, still doesnt really matter though.

Welcome to owning a carburetted car, that's normal. The engine has to be rich to start. As far as tuning, you and the guy before are probably doing it wrong. Best go look up a book on the carb and really read into it. half the time it's not he carb that's junk, it's the person miss-tuning it.

[snowboi1289]

I never said that I was driving without tags, I havent even drove it that much, moving it in the yard is bascily where its been, and on the side of the house where it will sit for awhile. I drove the Maxima arounnd without any tags, no trouble, but I'm sure I learned not to drive without insurance. My mom will take care of the insurance as soon as its completely registered and drivable.

Just tunned it a bit more, but still it still needs new plugs, and a good oil change, heres a small video of it running:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7-2gcMavr0

I dont remember if I mentioned this, but it has no cats, or mufflers, just headers and pipes. I can start it up now, but my neighbors will call the cops, again (they said there kids are sleeping, so no go on the runnning past 11:00).

[2jack3jack]

Also its a muscle car so if your getting 20mpg your doing good. On my camaro I'm getting like 17

[snowboi1289]

I seriously doubt I get 20mpg, I dont think I'm even getting 17mpg. I havent drove it that long to find out yet.

[supraboi97]

I seriously doubt I get 20mpg, I dont think I'm even getting 17mpg. I havent drove it that long to find out yet.

I wouldn't be suprized if it actually did. For some reason I get around 17mpg which is odd because thats exactly what my moms v6 gets.

[snowboi1289]

It can be a show car, but its going to be a daily driver car. I mean I will take it to car shows and all, its just it might not be winning anything, I'm just going to show it off.

[AJB32690]

Why is it that people refuse to listen to reason?

Everything that Bondo, Texan and I have said rings true.

Please, for the sake of this box, listen to us.

Case in point: My friend has a 1974 VW Sunbug that I helped him "restore." He decided he didn't want to fully restore it as he didn't have the money, so the money he did have he put into just getting it driving. (We did replace the floorpans, but that doesn't count because they were so rusted you could put your foot through them if you werent careful.) All we did was get the engine running, brakes, change transmission fluid, new tires, and a few small things. Now hes got a half-paint, half-primer car, that has rust spots in several places on the body, obvious fiber-glass patches, a bare interior, and it only runs about two months before it breaks down again. He has had this car for eight years, and its been on the road for two. Its not like this was his only car, he did have a slowbird just like Texans, but he sold it to get money for the Bug. He has also had four motorcycles since the purchase of the Bug.

Please listen to us, don't end up like my friend.

Do this the right way.

[snowboi1289]

The floor pans are not the bad, I'm pretty sure a couple holes in the floor wont be a problem, because I dont plan on driving in the rain, so I'm not worried about it. I looked under the car, and the floor pans are worse than all my friends ever thought.

I truely dont care what you all say, they are true, sometimes, but remember its my car, and I'm just asking for opinions, infact I didnt even ask for opinions, I didnt ask for anything. I would rather just post, and everybody look, and once I'm done, comment then people just telling me stuff that I most likely already know. The floor pans will not effect the driving at all, I've patched them up so it wont be like every time I go through a puddle the carpet will be wet.

[texan_idiot25]

If you don't want people's opinions... then... don't post in a public forum....

Or if you want to keep it boring, we can lock it, and only open it for you to post..

[snowboi1289]

Ok, thats fine with me.

[kendallcschm]

bad a** .. this thing is gonna be awesome.. and its way less ricey than the maxima

[texan_idiot25]

Currently locked by user's request..

[bondo]

i've opened this back up because i feel it is important that you learn to listen to people that are trying to help you.
you can get as defensive as you want but i'm going to let people pick on you and your actions until we finally beat it into your head that you have little idea about what your doing.
case in point,you somehow managed to ruin your suspension on the maxima while changing trans fluid.
you dive headfirst into gutting the car even though you have no money to fix/replace the stuff that needs it.(more work for nothing gained)

like i said in the other thread.
the P/O of my z28 was like you.
he dove headfirst into it and now i have to pay(both time and money)to fix his jurry riggins.
when i towed it home i had more parts off the car then on it and alot of stuff was missing or broke because he didnt know what he was doing when he took them off.
perfectly good car gone to **** and i have to pay out the *** just to get it back to stock.
if anyone has been wondering why it's taking me so long to resto an 85',well,there's your answer.
it makes me feel a bit better to know that kid is now a man and doing prison time for unrelated instances of *******edness.

please sno,take what we say to heart,chew it over and hopefully you'll learn something about cars and mostlikely about yourself.
quit getting so ****y when someone tells you your wrong.
it's a safe bet to say that the people that are telling you you're wrong have already been there or know someone who has.


@the rest of you guys,
please keep the offensives to a minimum.

[snowboi1289]

I d what I do. I've got very little money now because I still have to save up for a apartment or another place to live ( I've got to get my own place), I'm sure after that is finished, the Monte Carlo will be partly done. I dont like to finish things fast, because theres no fun in it, you finish everything one day what will you have to look back on (?) 1 day you did alot of work, instead of alot of work and maybe even some fun times while you work.

I've read everything, even though I didnt want to. I've taken everything into consideration, everything, even getting a guy to do all the work for me, but still thats no fun and I would have any more experience with my car. I would rather work on the car the hole year, while driving it, then having no car to drive and work on it when I can, what I'm trying to say is, its a daily driver, and I do all the work on it. Right now, I got $40. from cleaning a trailer, so I'm going to change the oil, plugs, and grease the speedo cable.

Ohhh, guess what, when I was letting my friend look at my car (yes I said letting him), I almost took a sip of my soda, when I seen there was bugs all in it, it looked like it was ants and nats, I dont know how ants can get into the car after I cleaned it. I just had put the soda in the car not even 5 minutes, and already stupid bugs all over it.

[ling427ttvette]

Dude, listen to your own words.. you are already broke, and you want to take on fixing an old broken down car?

You should have kept the Maxima. It already ran, didn't need work.. this one you are having to do a lot of crap to just to make it DECENT to drive.

And I don't care what you say, you are NOT doing a full resto on a car that you are daily driving. It's NOT POSSIBLE. A full resto requires a TON of work that can not be done on a daily driven car. And 2jack or whoever call this a muscle car, V8 and RWD does NOT mean muscle car. if that were the case Caprice station wagons and Crown Vics would be muscle cars.

Snowboi, have you ever noticed how you manage to come up with some BS excuse everytime someone tells you to do it the right way? You always have some kind of re-buttle that makes everything seem ok in your head. And if we don't agree then we are stupid.

Texan has done more to his truck that you could dream of, I've accomplished quite a bit in my time of being a mechanic and also working on my Camaro. And bondo has MANY years of body experience and has a resto project going himself.

That's three people right there with real experience, and yet you aren't listening to a single one of us. You are the most thick headed person I know. Let your guard down and LISTEN TO US.

[bondo]

I d what I do. I've got very little money now because I still have to save up for a apartment or another place to live ( I've got to get my own place), I'm sure after that is finished, the Monte Carlo will be partly done.
like i said before. stop ripping into the car and fix the piddly things that it needs to be legal/driveable.
SAVE YOUR MONEY because there's going to be ALOT of stuff that you can't fix and it's going to take some cash to replace.
again,ripping the seats and carpet out is a pointless step if you have no money.


I dont like to finish things fast, because theres no fun in it, you finish everything one day what will you have to look back on (?) 1 day you did alot of work, instead of alot of work and maybe even some fun times while you work.
believe me, with the shape that that car is in, even if you had a proper budget it would still take atleast a year to be show worthy.
there is nothing "fast" about a resto and it's going to take even longer if your walking backwards.

I've read everything, even though I didnt want to. I've taken everything into consideration, everything, even getting a guy to do all the work for me, but still thats no fun and I would have any more experience with my car. I would rather work on the car the hole year, while driving it, then having no car to drive and work on it when I can, what I'm trying to say is, its a daily driver, and I do all the work on it.

no one ever said to let someone else do the work.
what we're trying to pound into your thick head is that you should ask for advice before jumping into the deep end without your water wings.

Right now, I got $40. from cleaning a trailer, so I'm going to change the oil, plugs, and grease the speedo cable.
the plugs and fluids should heve been the VERY first thing you changed when you bought the car.
wiper motors and floorboards dont mean **** unless the car runs....
yet another uneducated mistake..
i don't care if i just bought a car from chip foose, imma swap all fluids and change the plugs simply for piece of mind.

do yourself a favor and nix greasing the speedo cable.
cough up the $12 for a replacement and you won't have to worry about it again.


Ohhh, guess what, when I was letting my friend look at my car (yes I said letting him), I almost took a sip of my soda, when I seen there was bugs all in it, it looked like it was ants and nats, I dont know how ants can get into the car after I cleaned it. I just had put the soda in the car not even 5 minutes, and already stupid bugs all over it.

you're probably parked on an ant bed.......:uhoh:



sorry for picking that one apart but that's about the only way i could do it without completely confusing myself....:lol:

[kendallcschm]

... if you don't have the money don't start the project... why do you all think you haven't heard any progress on my 1965 mustang xmod project.. i don't have the money and im not doing it half way and leaving my self with a broken RC or one that can't drive.. i learned this lesson the har way.. i dove head first into modifying my computer and bought mother board specific items... well.. my mother board is craping out from age... if i had saved my money then i would have a new mother board, memory, and really fast processor.. but now im stuck with crap.. i agree with everyone else.. save your money and fix your other problems before starting on the car

[2jack3jack]

kendal buy a car first then give people advice about theirs

[AJB32690]

And 2jack or whoever call this a muscle car, V8 and RWD does NOT mean muscle car. if that were the case Caprice station wagons and Crown Vics would be muscle cars.

Sorry to go off topic, but I disagree. Caprices and Vics in there stock form are not muscle, but in my town is a 90's Caprice wagon that kills at the street legal drag races. Also, when I finish my Vic, it will no doubt be considered muscle. What is the proper definition of muscle anyway? I always hear people arguing about what is or isn't, yet I've never heard a definite answer.

[bondo]

Sorry to go off topic, but I disagree. Caprices and Vics in there stock form are not muscle, but in my town is a 90's Caprice wagon that kills at the street legal drag races. Also, when I finish my Vic, it will no doubt be considered muscle. What is the proper definition of muscle anyway? I always hear people arguing about what is or isn't, yet I've never heard a definite answer.

a musclecar is defined by most as a domestic, RWD front mount with atleast 300HP.

[2jack3jack]

ya 2j3j was kind of right suck it ling lol jk

[snowboi1289]

I'll do what I want, when I want, and how I want, I have money, but some of it is going to a new place to live. I would have felt better that this thread would be closed, and when I'm done, then open it to have the last word. Its so stupid that you all (some of you) think your going to change my mind about this car, I'm not, so get over it and stop posting in a thread where you already tried to make your point, which I will most likely refuse.

The Maxima was an import, POS, I was happy with only the gas milage, ONLY, I'm happy with what I have now. I'm happy with doing all the work myself, I'm happy that I have a project that I can also drive, I'm happy that most people are jealous, just because most of ya'll think I'm going to come back to this forum just to here insults, or bad comments, you are mistaken.

Bondo, I figured you would incourage somebody to do some good repairs to an old car, because I figured you were the one that liked the old cars, but I must have been wrong.

I dont care to listen, or read people saying whats best, when they dont even know me or my situation. Even if I didnt have the money to do everything myself, I will have a friend do it very cheap, either way I put it, its my car, I'm ok with all the work I'll be doing to it.

ling, how did you know that the Maxiam didnt need work, it needed alot of work. I would rather drive a true Monte Carlo, than a crap import. If you know so much about everybody, then I'll start calling you the stalker, because unless you've been with everybody while there doing there job then you dont know. I know bondo has done alot of work, and with that truck he's working on. I know Texan did some/alot of work to his truck. Honestly, the only way you will know what I've done to many cars/trucks/vans/ect, then you must be stalking me, because I swear I havent discussed my business with other peoples cars. I might have said a little, but nothing for somebody to know how good I am.

I was kinda like my automotive instructors friend, if he needed me to look at a teachers car, I would round up a couple automotive class people and go look. I would say before you start telling me what I do and do not know, you should meet me in real life. I know some of ya'll know alot about cars and such, but nobody can see in your posts that you know what your talking about, for all we know is somebody could be claiming they know what to do, but they truely dont.

I dont care who considers a 80's car not a muscle car, I say its a muscle car, because it has nothing on the car that is eco friendly like alot of other 80's cars. I consider it a muscle car, if some of you dont, who cares you might own a stupid import and rice it out. I'd rather have the car that I do, than a ricey import.

To who ever opened my thread, please close it.

Edit: This time I'm done, goodbye. If you were somebody that was enjoying this thread without all the BS from the other members, PM me, and I'll tell you whats going on.

[suicide_star]

**** kid. the world is a malicious place to live, if you go out on a limb to put your business on the net, expect to be ridiculed. nobody on here can tell you what to do or hold a gun to your head and it's ONLY THE INTERNET. do what you will, but if you can't accept the criticism, then the rest of your life is going to be hell buddy. you're a great kid but you're so **** defensive all the time.

[texan_idiot25]

I'll do what I want, when I want, and how I want, I have money, but some of it is going to a new place to live. I would have felt better that this thread would be closed, and when I'm done, then open it to have the last word. Its so stupid that you all (some of you) think your going to change my mind about this car, I'm not, so get over it and stop posting in a thread where you already tried to make your point, which I will most likely refuse.
You constantly talk of how broke you are, and how you want to do it all yourself. Then you say how you want to pay someone else to do it... Were here to kick your *** into doing things the right way, because your too stupid to approach this car.

We don't care about you, we care more about the Monte.

The Maxima was an import, POS, I was happy with only the gas milage, ONLY, I'm happy with what I have now. I'm happy with doing all the work myself, I'm happy that I have a project that I can also drive, I'm happy that most people are jealous, just because most of ya'll think I'm going to come back to this forum just to here insults, or bad comments, you are mistaken.
No, we're not jealous.

Bondo, I figured you would incourage somebody to do some good repairs to an old car, because I figured you were the one that liked the old cars, but I must have been wrong.
He's encouraging your dumb *** to DO IT RIGHT. He's chastising you because your attacking this car from all the wrong angles. Don't insult him because of your incompetence.

I dont care to listen, or read people saying whats best, when they dont even know me or my situation. Even if I didnt have the money to do everything myself, I will have a friend do it very cheap, either way I put it, its my car, I'm ok with all the work I'll be doing to it.
Then why the hell do you post?

I know bondo has done alot of work, and with that truck he's working on. I know Texan did some/alot of work to his truck. Honestly, the only way you will know what I've done to many cars/trucks/vans/ect, then you must be stalking me, because I swear I havent discussed my business with other peoples cars. I might have said a little, but nothing for somebody to know how good I am.
Some? How about I built the truck from the ground up, basically every single piece that makes the truck move, stop, turn, and run was built up. Engine, transmission, brakes (converting from drumps to disks), fuel lines, fuel tank, just about all the electrical systems. When you have no engine or transmission, as it's hanging out over the front grille aiming for the motor mounts, with your front end blown apart and your old brakes and spindles sitting it a box next to you, as the vehicle waits for more, then you can talk. You cannot even comprehend that sort of work. And judging by how poorly you fixed that maxima (seriously how the hell do you ruin your suspension, drivetrain, and brakes changing transmission fluid), I sincerely fear for anyone who ever drove a car that was repaired by you. ****, you can't even keep that Maxima running after you sold it, nice job! And guessing if you didn't write the bill of sale bullet proof, he could easily keep the car and his money if he so wanted. Selling lemons is a bad thing to do, kiddo


I was kinda like my automotive instructors friend, if he needed me to look at a teachers car, I would round up a couple automotive class people and go look. I would say before you start telling me what I do and do not know, you should meet me in real life. I know some of ya'll know alot about cars and such, but nobody can see in your posts that you know what your talking about, for all we know is somebody could be claiming they know what to do, but they truely dont.
This whole statement is a cluster**** of confusion. We can easily judge your mechanical appitude based on your actions and "plans" so far, and how you demonstrated how inept you were with the maxima.


I dont care who considers a 80's car not a muscle car, I say its a muscle car, because it has nothing on the car that is eco friendly like alot of other 80's cars. I consider it a muscle car, if some of you dont, who cares you might own a stupid import and rice it out. I'd rather have the car that I do, than a ricey import.
No, most all of the american cars of the 80s were NOT muscle cars. You actually have to have some MUSCLE to be a MUSCLE car. And 160hp from your top level V8 is not muscle. You only consider it one because you think that what you say is word, your like a woman.

To who ever opened my thread, please close it.

Edit: This time I'm done, goodbye. If you were somebody that was enjoying this thread without all the BS from the other members, PM me, and I'll tell you whats going on.

You really want to be gone? I can make it happen

meh

[AJB32690]

Honestly, I think this thread should just be deleted. All it contains is a continuous argument and is not really going anywhere. No matter what we say to this kid, he is just going to go around in circles and the argument will escalate until this thread is locked or snowboi gets banned. The thread shouldn't even be kept open in the event that he does make progress, because there will not be any. We need to just do what I said in another thread and let him do what he wants with this car. Let it serve as a lesson to him when he ends up destroying it. By that time the guy who bought the Maxima will have screwed him and he will have no money and no car. Then, at that point, maybe, just maybe, he will listen to our reasoning.

[kendallcschm]

kendall buy a car first then give people advice about theirs

take two coarses about personal finance and one about buissness and have a mother as an accountant.. and then open your mouth..

i agree with AJB32690.. its just gonna get out of hand and people are going to start insulting each other..

[2jack3jack]

how bought this buy a car then open your mouth ive taking two courses you have to have them in my school. also if you want to bring moms into this my mom head of marketing at a firm so noob. buy a car then give advice or also it buying a car and knowing how to save money everyone on here except some people know how to do it

[AJB32690]

how bought this buy a car then open your mouth ive taking two courses you have to have them in my school. also if you want to bring moms into this my mom head of marketing at a firm so noob. buy a car then give advice or also it buying a car and knowing how to save money everyone on here except some people know how to do it

Dude, chill out. Idk about Kendall, but I was helping my friends fix cars, motorcycles, lawn mowers, etc. before I had a car.


Oh, and a =P for good measure.

[2jack3jack]

I was talking to kendal not you bro

[AJB32690]

I was talking to kendal not you bro

You are posting in a public forum 'bro,' therefore, you are talking to everyone here. If you want to have a private conversation with him, private message him. Don't clog up the forums with your off-topic arguments.

[kendallcschm]

how bought this buy a car then open your mouth ive taking two courses you have to have them in my school. also if you want to bring moms into this my mom head of marketing at a firm so noob. buy a car then give advice or also it buying a car and knowing how to save money everyone on here except some people know how to do it

i know how to save money.. i have 5K saved up in the bank.. i don't even have a real job yet!!