Buildoff!

[TheXmodifyer]

Hey fellas, TheX comin atcha.

I really want to do a Model body buildoff! There would be no reward, just some bragging rights and a sweet *** car once you're done. I'll do any class.
1- Muslce
2- Old Trucks
3- New trucks
4- Tuners
5- Anything!!

If anyone is interested please please post up what you'll do any how soon you can do it!

Thanks,
:firedevi: TheXmodifyer:firedevi:

[suicide_star]

i can do a 69 firebird, it'll take me a couple of weeks though

[blue504life]

im in, the car body will be on the way soon, i hope. its a concept muscle car from 63, and it will start when ever i get it

[KITT222]

i can do it. my project is a 1969 Camaro Z/28 RS. im putting it on a new Evo chassis. i just need a new dogbone, and some Camaro wheels :)

[TheXmodifyer]

im in, the car body will be on the way soon, i hope. its a concept muscle car from 63, and it will start when ever i get it
No mustangs...:p Nice, any pictures of the car?

[blue504life]

No mustangs...:p Nice, any pictures of the car?

no stangs? well im out than, :lol:, the body will remain unknown because, i dont have it yet

[TheXmodifyer]

i can do it. my project is a 1969 Camaro Z/28 RS. im putting it on a new Evo chassis. i just need a new dogbone, and some Camaro wheels :)
Alright, tell me when you get the parts.

i can do a 69 firebird, it'll take me a couple of weeks though
Sounds sweet, definitely keepin this one in mind.

no stangs? well im out than, :lol:, the body will remain unknown because, i dont have it yet
Lol, tell me when you get the body.

Also, in the end, I will take all the bodies and choose.

[KITT222]

Also, in the end, I will take all the bodies and choose.
huh?
Alright, tell me when you get the parts.

i just need the tires. thats it

[snowboi1289]

I've also been looking into a new project, but I have no money at the time. But like I said to you before, I will try to find somebody that'll do a build off with you.

Edit: TheXmodifyer, arent you going to build something also ?? I dont think its fair that you have to choose, I think it should be like a competition, but no actual prize. I think all the members should have there right to vote(this is not a speech from a person running for president,lol).

[bondo]

unsanctioned build offs are a recipe for diaster from the staff POV.
best bet is to get a (non-entering)mod involved and have them regulate the build off to keep it fair.
a third party,if you will.

have a few convo's with a mod and get a set of rules going to fit the build.

im not saying that you have to but it might go over a bit better if you did.:bigwink:

[WhiteMKIV]

All in favor for bondo to be the "supervisor" say i.....


Hmmmmmm shall i enter my 1986 Toyota Supra? hehehehehhee

[snowboi1289]

Me, umm I mean I vote for bondo.

[Donziikid]

unsanctioned build offs are a recipe for diaster from the staff POV.
best bet is to get a (non-entering)mod involved and have them regulate the build off to keep it fair.
a third party,if you will.

have a few convo's with a mod and get a set of rules going to fit the build.

im not saying that you have to but it might go over a bit better if you did.:bigwink:

Agreed.

All in favor for bondo to be the "supervisor" say i.....

However, Bondo is not part of the staff any longer.

But, I do not see a problem with him supervising this. If he would like to take this he's welcome. But, if he would like to enter into this build off, I would be glad to take this buildoff off of his hands since I will not be entering. Your call, Bondo.

[bondo]

no offense but i have to say no thank you...
i was only trying to point you guys in the right direction.
since i'm no longer staff, i can't rightfully supervise something like this nor do i wish to enter.
you should look for a staff member who would be unbiased towards all entrants.

i can offer advise(if needed) on how to run this successfully but i dont want the resposibility.:roll_eye:

[xmodkidd33]

I'll enter it if I can find a body to use.

[TheB1GDude]

Donzii if your cool with looking after this then please do otherwise I can.

Thanks.

[meme405]

Can i help judge? Or can I build a supersweet chassis that can win??

[TheXmodifyer]

Yeah, we absolutely need someone to moderate this competition. And I'll stop taking body entries by..say the 25th? And then Ill make a voting thread for every member on XMS to vote on and see what to build. But question for you guys: Would you rather see two of the same bodies or two different? I think two same would be a hell of alot more fair.

[Donziikid]

Donzii if your cool with looking after this then please do otherwise I can.

Thanks.

Seeing as how I'll be away for the whole next week, why don't you take it?

Yeah, we absolutely need someone to moderate this competition. And I'll stop taking body entries by..say the 25th? And then Ill make a voting thread for every member on XMS to vote on and see what to build. But question for you guys: Would you rather see two of the same bodies or two different? I think two same would be a hell of alot more fair.

July 25th? Wow, that's a very quick deadline when you just announced this yesterday. I'd say at least go until August 25th. That allows more time for people to build something up to par with the rest as well as a little wiggle room incase something goes wrong along the way. But, that's just my $0.02.

[TheB1GDude]

OK I'll supervise it then!

Lets play it like this:

1. By tomorrow I want a final decision on the class:

1- Muscle
2- Old Trucks
3- New trucks
4- Tuners
5- Anything!!

Do you want a voting thread to determine this or decide amongst yourselves?

2. By July 25th I want a definite list of you will be entering - once I have this I will create a new thread that you can post progress pictures into, you are also free to create your own build thread.

3. Start work on your car as soon as you make the decision to enter.

4. August 25th will be the deadline, at which point you must post completed pictures in the build thread.

5. August 26th to August 31st will be the voting period.

Let me know if thats two many rules for you... I want to keep this fun but I also want it to be sensible.

[zippo855]

i'd join in on the buildoff. imo the best bet would be a voting thread to determine the type of build.

[suicide_star]

all i have are muscle car bodies to work with (lots of em too)...if its another class, i cant do it :cry:

[TheB1GDude]

OK well tomorrow is today and I want that final decision on what type of car qualifies for this build off based on what everyone has said so far it really does look like muscle is the winner so unless anyone has an issue with that (in which case they have until the end of today to voice their opinion) that is what we are going for.....

[TheXmodifyer]

It's muscle. Final decision.

[TheB1GDude]

It's muscle. Final decision.

OK TheXmodifyer calls it! Muscle cars it is....

Now you have until July 25th to decide whether or not you are going to enter - remember if you do plan on entering start building straight away!

[suicide_star]

how long do we get to build?

[TheB1GDude]

how long do we get to build?

I had initially said August 25th..... does that give everyone long enough or should we extend this.....

[suicide_star]

I had initially said August 25th..... does that give everyone long enough or should we extend this.....

sounds good to me buddy. i'm in

Entering: 69 Pontiac Firebird, likely on a Gen1 Chassis.

[xmodkidd33]

This has to be a model body, correct?

[TheB1GDude]

This has to be a model body, correct?

Yes indeedy!

[KITT222]

before i begin i will need some things, and the only thing i dont have covered is the '67 Camaro wheels. can somebody please help me?

[TheB1GDude]

before i begin i will need some things, and the only thing i dont have covered is the '67 Camaro wheels. can somebody please help me?

I would love to but I'm actually looking for a set of those myself.... :)

[zippo855]

i'm in, will look through my model sets tonight and let you know what i'll be doing.

[aaronz350z]

im in i dont know what car im entering yet

[zippo855]

well i have narrowed it down to 2. suggestions? i'll start this weekend on one of them.
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll28/zippo855/P1000179.jpg

[imnotmikal]

Impala.
Do it.

[suicide_star]

heres a teaser with half of my chassis :lol:

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j265/rhodified/Picture235-1.jpg

[mustanglover]

nice chassis! the black impala with purple ghost flame would rock!

[WhiteMKIV]

:( another muscle one ughhhhh time to sit out for another month :cry:

[bondo]

i know i said i didnt want to enter, but what the hell?
im in with a 69 cougar;)

[suicide_star]

i know i said i didnt want to enter, but what the hell?
im in with a 69 cougar;)

:) sweet..he said the deadline was aug 25th...thats plenty of time imo.

[benoj]

i suppose ill enter this sense muscle cars are my speciality

[fieldfairy2]

Does it have to be a model body? if it is, i can't enter. No spare chassis...

[AJB32690]

I haven't done anything with my Xmods in months, and Ive been wanting to get back into it, so this seems like the perfect way to restart my love of these little things.

I'm in.

I'm pretty sure I'm doing a '69 Cougar Eliminator. I'll have the final decision tomorrow morning.

[FinalGear]

I'm in...August 25th :)

[TheB1GDude]

OK lots of potential entries so far! I'll keep taking entries until July 25th then I'll create a build thread and you can start showcasing your work.....

[bondo]

hey B1G, can we gat a list of the people that are entering and their cars for quick reference?

i think that everyone that is entering should make a new post here(even if you already stated) stating what car they'll be building.

we dont need all of the details, just the year,model and chassis.

example:
please use this template so B1G can simply copy and paste for a comprised list.(saves him some typing;))


BONDO:
building a 69' cougar on an EVO chassis.

this will help the rest of us determine what were up against without having to read back through 3 pages.

thanks,

[KITT222]

im officially in. i figured out my chassis and wheel issues.

im entering my '69 Camaro Z/28 RS.

My chassis should be operational once i get my new dogbones:D

[AJB32690]

Shoot Bondo, if you are doing a '69 Cougar then I changed my mind, lol. I'm not at home now, so I dont know exactly what I've got. I have a whole pile of un-opened models there. Ill put in my official entry when I get home tonight.

[fieldfairy2]

you guys didn't answer my question early. that's fine. but i need to know.

Do you have to use a model body to enter this buildoff?

[AJB32690]

you guys didn't answer my question early. that's fine. but i need to know.

Do you have to use a model body to enter this buildoff?

Go back and read the original post. He said "model body build-off." I would assume model body means: yes, it has to be a model body.

[bondo]

yes, model bodies only.
it was answered on the second page.

[XMODification]

I guess this should be interesting so i'll enter too.

As for model/year/make - I'm not sure yet, i'll have to see what I can find and i'll update you guys before the end date. :nod:

[zippo855]

i decided on the 72 nova

[bondo]

I guess this should be interesting so i'll enter too.

As for model/year/make - I'm not sure yet, i'll have to see what I can find and i'll update you guys before the end date. :nod:

better make it quick bro;).
i think the deadline for entries is the 25th of this month to wich you have to have a project on hand if not already building.

[meme405]

Suicide i see you have the capacitor mod done hooked up to the chassis...not the motor...

Good luck to everyone...

[TheB1GDude]

Guys I've put together a few new threads to save this one from getting to out of hand!

Please use this one for your discussions (http://www.xmodsource.com/forum/showthread.php?p=169994#post169994)

Entrants please use this one for updates on your projects (http://www.xmodsource.com/forum/showthread.php?p=169995#post169995)

[AJB32690]

After going through what I had on hand, it looks like I'm sticking to my original plan, even if it means going toe-to-toe with Bondo.

My official entry will be a '69 Cougar Eliminator.

Edit: Its gonna be on an EVO chassis btw.

[xmodkidd33]

B1G, can you extend the entry deadline 2 weeks or so? I'm going on vacation next week, and I can't get to the hobby shop until I get back.

[TheB1GDude]

OK so comp closes on September 14th - voting begins and runs to September 19th - would that work better for everyone?

[xmodkidd33]

Thanks a lot, that would be great! What about the deadline to say if you're in or not?

[TheB1GDude]

Thanks a lot, that would be great! What about the deadline to say if you're in or not?

I'll extend that until the end of the month July 31st....

[Dark Knight]

where can i see the progress?

[AJB32690]

Theres a discussion thread in the "Competition" area and several threads (including mine) in the "Projects" area.

[XMODification]

I'm entering with a REVELL MUSCLE '69 Dodge Super Bee. Paint scheme: :-? not sure yet - could be red, yellow, blue, or purple. Chassis plans: Custom built chassis, lipo battery, Evo board, 2x2 FETs, HS-55 for steering(?), and S2 motor with neos. Body plans: partial Interior, maybe mock engine and a few other added details.

That's all for now guys, I should have the pics up soon along with my B.O.P (Build Off Project :bigwink: ) thread.

[bondo]

wow man.
looks like this is the comp for 69's........:bigwink:

[KITT222]

:headbang: Go 1969!

[TheB1GDude]

Lets hope someone throws in a DUB Charger or something along those lines.... :)

[XMODification]

I had just realized that it was mostly '69's that will be up in this - kinda like the battle of the 69 classic muscle cars - lol :D

I'm looking foward to seeing what you guys have in store for this Buildoff - a month should be long enough - I think i'll be taking my time for this one :bigwink:.

[bondo]

I had just realized that it was mostly '69's that will be up in this - kinda like the battle of the 69 classic muscle cars - lol :D

I'm looking foward to seeing what you guys have in store for this Buildoff - a month should be long enough - I think i'll be taking my time for this one :bigwink:.

we can call it "The Summer of 69's"....now all we have to do is hire bryan adams to do a theme song...lol
(for the younger members, bryan adams is a soft rock guy who had a song called "The Summer of 69")

im the exact opposite.
i'm **** near ready for paint;).......any prize for finishing first???/lmao

[KITT222]

you mean Woodstock?

[meme405]

I'm entering with a REVELL MUSCLE '69 Dodge Super Bee. Paint scheme: :-? not sure yet - could be red, yellow, blue, or purple. Chassis plans: Custom built chassis, lipo battery, Evo board, 2x2 FETs, HS-55 for steering(?), and S2 motor with neos. Body plans: partial Interior, maybe mock engine and a few other added details.

That's all for now guys, I should have the pics up soon along with my B.O.P (Build Off Project :bigwink: ) thread.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s52/meme405/HPIM0609.jpg

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s52/meme405/HPIM0601.jpg

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s52/meme405/HPIM0602.jpg

DO IT! that paint scheme is sweet...

[XMODification]

@ B-man: You know me, i can whop up a project in a few days,lol, but i got time for this one. Edit: ok, it was Brian Adams' song, I had the cassette tape way back then (lol).
@ meme: i do like that color but i have to use what i have atm, a can of tamiya paint is a gal of gas for me :) . I do have something close so i'll see 'bout it.

Anyways, i might toss in a NIB RS rechargable AAA battery pack as a prize too - everyone can use batteries :) .

[xmodkidd33]

I'm planning on either an AAR Cuda, Challenger, or GTX as my project car, it all depends on what my LHS has.

[AJB32690]

Superbee decals on a Charger? That confuses me, whats going on there?

Now I kinda wish I did that '67 GTX, just to break up all the '69s.

[TheXmodifyer]

Well, I'll be doing a 1969 Chevy Chevelle. So The title of this battle will be "The summer of 69's"! (Thank you bondo for the name)

[madcat303]

Blue F150! when my chassis arrives, ill begin getting the lights in

[TheB1GDude]

I changed the title of the build and discussion threads and made them stickies!

I'm still waiting on that final list of entrants so PM me if I missed you!

[bondo]

Well, I'll be doing a 1969 Chevy Chevelle. So The title of this battle will be "The summer of 69's"! (Thank you bondo for the name)

I changed the title of the build and discussion threads and made them stickies!

I'm still waiting on that final list of entrants so PM me if I missed you!

hahahaha, cool!
i was joking about the title but i guess it fits;).(not to take anything away from the non-69's....:bigwink: )

so the deadline for entries is the 31'st right?


Blue F150! when my chassis arrives, ill begin getting the lights in


uhh....:uhoh:
sorry bud but an F-150 is not a muscle car.
this is also a buildoff for models.

[Acura]

how about we extend the entry time 'till a little longer, this is gonna be my first time doing a project ever guys! so wish me luck. will be a 80's camaro

[bondo]

how about we extend the entry time 'till a little longer, this is gonna be my first time doing a project ever guys! so wish me luck. will be a 80's camaro


lol, that would have been my second choice.
i have an 85' z28 but i want to save that one for a nice long build;)

[Acura]

oh that's cool bondo, im really looking forward to this

im gonna give it a working sound system
with some cool lime or candy green paint
with a white and lime green interior

[spike421]

can i join

[TheB1GDude]

can i join

Deadline for entries is the end of month so yes you can enter just let me know what your entry will be.....

[stangdude94]

ok i have a question can i enter a car i already built

[bondo]

ok i have a question can i enter a car i already built


it would'nt be true to the term "Build Off" but i guess we'll see what Xmodifyer has to say about it.
that's pretty much redefining the rules........it kinda defeats the purpose of a build deadline and if that was the case then i would have entered my superbird and been done with it.

[Dark Knight]

i'll do a civic

[bondo]

i'll do a civic

a civic model body??
what year/model?

lastly, when did they make a civic "Muscle Car"?

[spike421]

hey jeff this is jenner and i just bought from wallyworld a saleen s7

[bondo]

hey jeff this is jenner and i just bought from wallyworld a saleen s7


if your only talking to your freind then it could have been through PM.
if your looking to enter then there's another descrepency, a saleen S7 is a supercar, not a musclecar.

[Dark Knight]

a civic model body??
what year/model?

lastly, when did they make a civic "Muscle Car"?

can i just use the one from gen1s? im going to put a body kit on it and put some decals or something on it

[c1v1c]

can i just use the one from gen1s? im going to put a body kit on it and put some decals or something on it

Ermmh Custom bodies means model body, gen1 shells are considered the same as evo shells...Putting body kit and stickers isnt custom At all.

[bondo]

please go back and read the rules of this build off.
it is for MODEL BODIES!
this means you buy a model body and fit it to an Xmod and build it **** near from scratch, hence the term buildoff....

go ahead and build your civic.
keep it a top secret project until the next OFFICIAL comp rolls around.
it might just be suited for a class that the civic fits.(imports,tuners,sedans,Etc.)
i can tell you that a civic Xmods body brakes two of the original guidlines laid out for this buildoff.

[bondo]

sorry for the double post but i just wanted to point out that this is one of the reasons that i suggested this be moderated by the staff.
the sanctioned comps are being comprimised by people trying to find loopholes or not reading the simple rules, so i knew it would eventually happen here aswell.
READ and UNDERSTAND the rules before hitting that send button.
remember, post count means nothing. people remember you by how you carry yourself online and by not reading what your replying to, your making yourself look like a tool.
i hate to say that online rep means something but that's the way it works.
you're nothing but a name online so your job is to make that name memorable.......the reasons and how you go about it are up to you....:uhoh: :bigwink:

[AJB32690]

Very true Bondo. Lots of people seem to skim through the rules, and then ask a stupid question that wouldve been answered if they actually read the rules.

Slightly off-topic, but I heard that some background checks for pre-employment are starting to look into forums and stuff that you post on. Its only a matter of time before the government stuffs cameras in our faces 24/7.

[bondo]

Slightly off-topic, but I heard that some background checks for pre-employment are starting to look into forums and stuff that you post on. Its only a matter of time before the government stuffs cameras in our faces 24/7.


well, i'm screwed......
there goes my millions.....:cry:
i guess i truly am stuck with you lot since i'll never be able to afford a mini-z..........:nodno: :lol:

i dont think that any potential employers would look at my posts and say "hey, that's a guy i'd like to have onboard.."

[AJB32690]

well, i'm screwed......
there goes my millions.....:cry:
i guess i truly am stuck with you lot since i'll never be able to afford a mini-z..........:nodno: :lol:

i dont think that any potential employers would look at my posts and say "hey, that's a guy i'd like to have onboard.."


Haha. I dont really understand it either. Maybe they just skim to see what the forum is about and get the general idea of it. Just to make sure you arnt on some anarchist or satanic forum or something like that.

[Dark Knight]

I really want to do a Model body buildoff! There would be no reward, just some bragging rights and a sweet *** car once you're done. I'll do any class.
1- Muslce
2- Old Trucks
3- New trucks
4- Tuners
5- Anything!! :dblfin:

i guess im doing the civic then but im not planning on entering it on any contest. i have a 1/28 chevy xtreme but it is longer than the chassis.

[AJB32690]

I really want to do a Model body buildoff! There would be no reward, just some bragging rights and a sweet *** car once you're done. I'll do any class.
1- Muslce
2- Old Trucks
3- New trucks
4- Tuners
5- Anything!! :dblfin:

i guess im doing the civic then but im not planning on entering it on any contest. i have a 1/28 chevy xtreme but it is longer than the chassis.

Nice try, but if you read the whole thing, which is what we are talking about now, you would realize those were just ideas for the competition. As in, we could have a muscle car comp (which was what won) or we could do old trucks. All you did was skim the first post and you misinterpreted it. AND the Civic is an xmod shell, so its still against the rules because its not a model body!

[suicide_star]

I really want to do a Model body buildoff! There would be no reward, just some bragging rights and a sweet *** car once you're done. I'll do any class.
1- Muslce
2- Old Trucks
3- New trucks
4- Tuners
5- Anything!! :dblfin:

i guess im doing the civic then but im not planning on entering it on any contest. i have a 1/28 chevy xtreme but it is longer than the chassis.

great...still, it's a MUSCLE CAR competition...dark knight is a great name for you b/c you're about as blind as a **** bat...if you read through this thread before you started posting you'd see that xmodifyer decided it was a muscle car competition, please, everybody, read before you start posting, it'll make our lives easier and prevent you from making an *** out of yourself.

[spike421]

caN I enter my 06 saleen s7

[AJB32690]

caN I enter my 06 saleen s7

You already asked, and it was rejected.

A Saleen s7 is NOT a muscle car. Neither is a Honda Civic!

New members drive me crazy :eyecraz: ...

[zippo855]

caN I enter my 06 saleen s7

as bondo stated before thats more of a supercar than a musclecar.

[suicide_star]

You already asked, and it was rejected.

A Saleen s7 is NOT a muscle car. Neither is a Honda Civic!

New members drive me crazy :eyecraz: ...


you and me both :roll_eye:

[Dark Knight]

great...still, it's a MUSCLE CAR competition...dark knight is a great name for you b/c you're about as blind as a **** bat...if you read through this thread before you started posting you'd see that xmodifyer decided it was a muscle car competition, please, everybody, read before you start posting, it'll make our lives easier and prevent you from making an *** out of yourself.

MY APOLOGIES

sorry everyone. i just came back from cutting 2 acres of grass with a push lawnmower in 98F heat breathing gas fumes. i nearly had to go to the ER for the fumes. I could barely breath and i was a bit "high" and i had a rash on my chest and neck and i felt dizzy. sorry everyone :blush: and i have a fever right now. so this is why i acted like an a$$

[FinalGear]

you and me both :roll_eye:

Know you don't....you love us all....:p

[TheXmodifyer]

You already asked, and it was rejected.

A Saleen s7 is NOT a muscle car. Neither is a Honda Civic!

New members drive me crazy :eyecraz: ...
Take it easy, your a new member too.

NO rice burners
NO tuners.
ONLY muscle!

[suicide_star]

Take it easy, your a new member too.

NO rice burners
NO tuners.
ONLY muscle!

i thought tuners and rice burners were essentially the same thing? im waiting to see yours Xmodifyer, what are you doin? btw, thanks for stirring up this comp, its pretty fun.

[TheXmodifyer]

i thought tuners and rice burners were essentially the same thing? im waiting to see yours Xmodifyer, what are you doin? btw, thanks for stirring up this comp, its pretty fun.

No problem bro, I figured it would be pretty fun. And I'm doing a 1969 Chevelle. My most detailed car yet.

[AJB32690]

Take it easy, your a new member too.


You're* (sorry, had to do it.)

Anyway, Im not that new. Ive been here 7 months, I just dont post 100 messages per day. Plus, Ive been on other forums before, and I know how to handle myself online, unlike most people...

There seem to be a lot of people getting into this... I may be over my head here. Oh well, my project will at least gain some recognition.

[TheXmodifyer]

You're* (sorry, had to do it.)

Anyway, Im not that new. Ive been here 7 months, I just dont post 100 messages per day. Plus, Ive been on other forums before, and I know how to handle myself online, unlike most people...

There seem to be a lot of people getting into this... I may be over my head here. Oh well, my project will at least gain some recognition.

Woah woah, first off, if you're going to show disrespect I do not want you in my competition. And what are you trying to imply by saying, "i know how to handle myself online unlike most people..".

So has everyone that wants to enter entered?

[AJB32690]

Woah woah, first off, if you're going to show disrespect I do not want you in my competition. And what are you trying to imply by saying, "i know how to handle myself online unlike most people..".

So has everyone that wants to enter entered?

Slow down. Im sorry if you took that as disrespectful, I wasn't trying to be. And I was implying that I dont go around acting like an idiot online, I dont pick fights on the internet, I dont type like I dropped out of Elementary school, I can spell very well, and so on. None of this was directed towards you, and again, Im sorry if you were offended by it.

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The length of a members existence and their post count aren't necassarily correlating accounts of the members contribution. Look at Fordman, for example, he has been around a long time and has many posts yet as contributed very little aside from comic relief and the occasional ill-advised mod bashing.

We have been getting some new members that need to be taught the ways of the forum, but there are also some that come in fully adept to the online enviroment.

Xmodifyer, you really don't need to be playing mod and telling someone what opinion they can or cannot have. If you look right past his post there is a supermod that totally agreed with his statement as that particular new member does need some training to exist on this forum.

At that, let's put this new member/veteran baby to bed and get to the comp.