offroad car

[mytitan]

im making an evolution (car)yes you read that right (car) drive in sand any suggestions on what i shoud do, how about these, http://www.xmodsinternational.com/USA_STORE_FRONT_SUPERSWAMPER_WSLAMMEDRIMS.htm and a stage two .

[nitemeer]

big wheel and get a good motor lol as in Radline motors are pretty good

[mytitan]

would the tires i chose spin out in sand?

[nitemeer]

too much sand no.. light sand maybe

[mytitan]

how about this http://www.target.com/Radlines-RC-Speed-Racing-Motor/dp/B000UGSVU0/sr=1-2/qid=1215743984/ref=sr_1_2/602-2560602-2674235?ie=UTF8&index=target&rh=k%3Aradline&page=1, and by the way how do u keep the tires from rubing the shell?

[nitemeer]

that motor i have right now is pretty good.. i guess.. good enough for light off road.. to go off road you might want a servo but very slow lol. try to extend the axle to avoid rubbing shell/body

that motor in store, is on clearance i believe.. which i paid half price for it 2 days ago.

[mytitan]

those tires i showd do i need those rims 2?

[nitemeer]

those tires i showd do i need those rims 2?

i have no clue on that to be honest.. lego tires are best choice for me :D lol

edit: you have to cut the motor mound part to fit the Radline motor in

this is my evo car off roader.. just a sample.. has a Radline Modified Motor (thats the name of the motor you linked)
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa234/runtohell121/xmod/DSC01195640x480.jpg

[XmodzICON82]

that's pretty sweet looking

[amorton94]

dude, you don't know how to make spacers to lift the body? there is a tut on here on how to make them, it's really easy

[GearHeadV8]

it looks more like a moon trker

[mytitan]

does any body know where i can get realy good moster truck or paddle tires? besides ebay?

please. suggestions?

what about this and stage 2? http://www.xmodsinternational.com/USA_STORE_FRONT_SUPERCHARGERMOTORPOD.htm

[nitemeer]

go buy lego tires in store :D as in giant ones pick one box of legos.. and then mod the tire to fit your car :) like i do lol and the super charger... just a bigger gear lol

[mytitan]

can you show a vidio so i know how slow that moter goes? lol is the stage 2 better?

[nitemeer]

can you show a vidio so i know how slow that moter goes? lol is the stage 2 better?

uhh.. maybe later... for torque, its better than stage 2... for speed i'm not sure about it.. its faster the stage 1 thats all i know but with the tire and the weight right now... it isn't so fast like this.. lol

[mytitan]

do irocks work good in sand and offroad? will they fit on stock titan wheels?

[supraboi97]

I'm not sure about the whole sand thing but for off roading i would say the aoshima's. They get pretty good traction and don't look rediculously big compared to the body but it should get traction on sand too. Not sure though.

[nitemeer]

do irocks work good in sand and offroad?

no clue.. i never tried any other tires besides lego tires always lol

[mytitan]

the problem is, i want them to be rediculisly big lol.

[nitemeer]

the problem is, i want them to be rediculisly big lol.

and the problem is.. the motor would not support heavier tires that well.. lol :D you probably want a servo if your getting a giant heavy tires...

[xmodkidd33]

Look for Mini-Baja tires.

[Surgeon]

If you are taking a car offroad your best bet would get some of the stock truck tires. The hummer/f150/titan tires are going to look the least ridiculous. On any account you are going to be doing some serious bodylift or serious wheel-well shaving.

Awhile back I built an offroad baja bug. I used the Revell Rpmz treaded tires on it, and they worked out really well.

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/thesurgeongeneral/100_1878.jpg

They are the same size as the drag slicks on Texan's F-bomb, so in theory if you are using a Camaro or mustang you won't have to do to much shaving.

[nitemeer]

that looks pretty nice.. the stock tires from trucks can't do much off roading though.. i tried it :)

heres the video.. just wait.. since i just uploaded.. has a few off roading and on roading.. battery was nearly dead.. so performance isn't at best right now.
ERLOhN1NNFw

[stangdude94]

dude that crazy man good job

[mytitan]

that was awsome. it that hi torqe gearing?

[nitemeer]

do you have any lego tires i can have, im not sure if this is concidered b/s/t if so sorry mods.

nope... and on my xmod.. it is using stock gearing but the pinon is 8

edit: go to lego homepage or this http://shop.lego.com/ByCategory/Product.aspx?p=8492&cn=37&d=74
you can look for lego cars.. that has big tires.. you can probably mod it very easy..

[mytitan]

the wheels look plastic?

[nitemeer]

the wheels look plastic?

not sure about it.. you should go to Target and shop around for Lego cars.. most of them are rubber tires..

[mytitan]

this looks good and cheap. http://shop.lego.com/product/?p=4838&LangId=2057&ShipTo=US

[nitemeer]

i wonder how big thoes tires are? http://shop.lego.com/product/?p=7942&LangId=2057&ShipTo=US

those are super small i bet.. lol

[mytitan]

i edited it its a diff. link

[nitemeer]

i edited it its a diff. link

it is still small.. most of the big tires are in Racer or TECHNIC series http://shop.lego.com/ByTheme/Leaf.aspx?cn=57&d=70

[mytitan]

i found some toy moster truck tires im putting a small lego tires in the middle.

[pwned12355]

i have no clue on that to be honest.. lego tires are best choice for me :D lol

edit: you have to cut the motor mound part to fit the Radline motor in

this is my evo car off roader.. just a sample.. has a Radline Modified Motor (thats the name of the motor you linked)
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa234/runtohell121/xmod/DSC01195640x480.jpg

were did u get those tires (like what lego kit) and how did u modify them to fit the xmod?

[nitemeer]

were did u get those tires (like what lego kit) and how did u modify them to fit the xmod?

i actually have no clue which kit was it.. but it was from a Racer kit which was about 1-2 years ago.. had to shave the rim.. and then super glue an Xmod Rim on it.

[mytitan]

how are the tires pushed forward like that mine stick back so you cant steer good, and how do you extend the axles?

[nitemeer]

i didn't really extend the axle and i don't really get what you mean lol

[mytitan]

my tires are closer back to the board than yours, yours look extended forwords

[nitemeer]

yea i extended it a little.. not using super glue 2 axles though.

[mytitan]

how did you extend it? is it bad if my tires are hard ruber.

[nitemeer]

how did you extend it? is it bad if my tires are hard ruber.

you know when theres 2 bearings, put them at the bottom and leave the top empty.. then cap it with the somewhat called disc brakes.

[mytitan]

ok but what about my tires whill they work?

[nitemeer]

i'm not sure about what kind of tire it is... and i'm not sure about tires period lol.

[mytitan]

i think ill go with skiny tires like the ones in the offroad kit or something

[nitemeer]

off road kit tires can't do much though lol i have them... maybe for a few rocks thats not bulky can handle.. but for others.. not really, off road kit tires can't go in sand at all

[zippo855]

what tires are you trying to use? you said they are hard rubber. are they the iroks? or which tire are they?

[mytitan]

no there big tires off a toy monster truck, do you have any tires you want to sell or give or trade?

[zippo855]

at the moment no. i am trying to find some more like on my crawler if i come acrossed any ill let you know

[mytitan]

thanks ill tell you if i come across some they have them on ebay an xmodinternational, but you need paypal

bump

No need to bump this thread without progress or updates.

i think im going to make it for mud and dirt mostly, do i want stiff springs?

[mytitan]

i got the evo car (barricade) in the mail today,
so i need
tires
motar
awd. any thing else? maybee shocks?

[nitemeer]

Motor, bearing, and AWD is probably the thing you would want the most and some good tires for off road. just don't double post...

[madcat303]

go find some micro t baja, or raminator tires, youll be left with the mounting though, i made a tutoriol so it wont be so hard :P, as far as motors, the super charger will have almost no torge, it only has speed, so dont waste my money on that:mad:

[nitemeer]

lol i tried a homemade supercharger... speed... well seems fast.. not sure... but has no power at all.. can't even move on carpet lol.. my gear was a 15T from Radline motor kit thingy... don't bother getting supercharger for sure.. just get a good torque motor.

[mytitan]

madcat, are u talking about the lego tire tutoriol?

[Sweed]

i got the evo car (barricade) in the mail today,
so i need
tires
motar
awd. any thing else? maybee shocks?

You need good, grippy tires, but you also need treads to grab good on the loose stuff. No slicks. To keep it looking scale, I would go with Micro-T Monster tires, somehow mounted to xmod wheels. The Monster Tires should also preform pretty well.

Motor, I would go Lithium and get something with higher winds than stock, then gear it lower. The more winds will allow you to gear it lower, becuase you have more torque. This allows the lithiums and the motor to run cooler, increasing the life span. For off-road fun, it needs to be able to acclerate quick and go fast.

AWD is a must. I lock the rear disc and possibly run a LSD up front, tightened down pretty good. If they make One-Way diffs, or you have the tools to may your own, that might work well as well.

Shocks. I would go for greased stock shocks (thick silicone grease should work), then make some kind of shock-sock out of like a small balloon or something. It's a pain when you just have springs, because you can't control the compression/rebound and it just bounces. I would go for some heavy grease, but it has to allow the shock to move.

If it's in your budget, you could try shortening a pair of Micro-T Shocks (Atomic) and changing the mounting points of the tops on the chassis. Good dampening, good shocks, and lots of spring options.

It's motor, btw.

[mytitan]

im on a budget build, so i think ill go with stage 2 and torque gearing, micro monster truck tires and maybe the hard spring in the stering and suspension kit an awd and lift the body, and the chassie if i can.

[nitemeer]

stage 2 is not good for torque.. i would go with Radline motors.. those are cheap and have good torque for budget builders.

[Sweed]

stage 2 is not good for torque.. i would go with Radline motors.. those are cheap and have good torque for budget builders.

Talk to RedSXmodder, and see if he is till doing motor building. He can probably work out a good motor deal for the price of the radline motors. You can make more torque with a bearing can and carbon brushes.

Personally, I would drop some Neo mags in a Stage 1 Can and call it a day. Lemme know if you need some for a good price, I think I have a set somewere.

im on a budget build, so i think ill go with stage 2 and torque gearing, micro monster truck tires and maybe the hard spring in the stering and suspension kit an awd and lift the body, and the chassie if i can.

Stick with the Stage 1 motor, they have more winds, and more torque. But you can play with the gearing. The MC-T MT tires work well. You may want to try greasing the stock shocks, and making a shock-sock. Shouldn't cost more than $10 to do so.

You want to lift the chassis, more-so make more suspension travel, so don't get the drop kit. You may also wanna work out the top mounting part of the knuckle, and possibly mod it to be double wishbone instead of strut-type. If you are creative, you can probably do this with Micro-T parts for less than $20, possibly less than $10.

Just remember that you don't want to sacrafice down travel. You want uptravel and downtravel (droop) in the suspension. You can do some research on other forums on how much is good, but atleast a couple of mm's of droop when it's at ride height.

To check droop, put the car together completely, then push all four corners all the way down and compress it. Then let it go. This gives you the ride height. Then lift the car, all four corners and equal amount to were the tires are just barely touching the ground. This will tell you the droop distance. Checking suspension travel is easy. Just becuase the body bottoms out, doesn't mean you can't have more uptravel. The car will roll, and if it one side can't drop down more (the droop) the tires will start to lift.

Also, you don't want it too stiff or it will ride super rough and can sacrafice traction, but you don't want it too soft, or energy will be wasted as the wheel travels up and down over every pit or bump. You have to play with the springs and find a good setting.

I wouldn't lift the body anymore than it needs to to clear the tires. If you play with the strut mounting point (top part of the knuckle), you can also fix the camber to a certain point, but that's pretty advanced stuff. Instead of raising the body (and a large part of the COG), I would shave the inside were it would rub, and make a Color0-Impreza style front lip to protect the body. I'll dig up a link to his thread in a bit if you need it. But raising the COG isn't good. It produces more body roll and will negatively impact the handling. It can help if you are trying to drift though, as the extra body roll can help break the wheels loose, but if you have too much traction, you may end up traction rolling.

I'm gonna make a write up on suspension tommarrow, so there will be more info. But that's the basics.

[mytitan]

thanks, are the micro raminater and t the same size tires?

[Sweed]

thanks, are the micro raminater and t the same size tires?

No. the Micro Raminator (aka Monster Truck) has bigger tires.

[mytitan]

im not double posting because i deleated the other post. am i aloud to do that?

i decided to make it a crawler, i need to fit the body on there, is their another way besides cutting the body? the titan clip wont fit on the car.

[nitemeer]

most truck body won't really fit a car.. and most likely the tires/wheel will rub againist the body or the chassis if the tires are too big.

[mytitan]

how did you put the hummer on?

i got it to fit i might have 2 cut it when i get the tires thoe, will the micro monster tires be good for crawling?

[nitemeer]

the hummer is on a truck chassis.. and your trying to use a car chassis for a truck body..

[mytitan]

on youtube i thought i saw your car with a humer body but maybe not., but i have a bigger problem now i put stock truck tires and wheels on it and drove it outside for like 3 minutes, and now it sounds like a wead waker when i lift it of the ground and hit the triger lol, whats rong? it has to be the gears right?

[zippo855]

do your tires move at all? if not probably toasted your diff.

[mytitan]

the tires spin normal, it just makes a weird sound, the gears seem fine thoe.

[KITT222]

my Titan does the same thing. the dogbone is coming out of the diff.

[nitemeer]

any pictures? try disassembling the car and put it back one by one.. lol

[mytitan]

any pictures? try disassembling the car and put it back one by one.. lol
ill see if i can avoid that lol, should i run it or will it break, maybe i got dirt in it or something any ideas? will the stock titan wheels work for crawling

sorry for the double post but i fixed it and put torque gears in.