gen1 Rockcrawler

[c1v1c]

Well this is kind of a budget build since ive build this rig with what i had at home so dont expect too much.

Overall its a Rockcrawler torsion chassis(people into large scale crawling know what i mean) anyways i'll give you guys some picture so you can see what it is actually.

It's real simple. Just a plastic pieces that bolt the 2 axles together wich flexes for articulation.

Ground clearance aint that bad either with this setup. :D

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/quam3900/IMG_0655.jpg
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/quam3900/IMG_0668.jpg
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/quam3900/IMG_0667.jpg
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/quam3900/IMG_0666.jpg
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/quam3900/IMG_0659.jpg

articulation *note: this is how much it can actually articulate without any additional weight so im pretty much amaze!

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/quam3900/IMG_0670.jpg
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/quam3900/IMG_0669.jpg

So yeah its not near done yet, the transmission shafts are still real weak.

Hope u guys like it, you dont see a weird xmod chassis like this very often!

cya

[fieldfairy2]

Wow. very cool. gen1 rockcrawler, yet you have some evo parts on it. lol. What body is going to be on it? What motor is in it for now. Electronics?(servo, board etc.) Keep us updated. Can't wait for the final product

[c1v1c]

Wow. very cool. gen1 rockcrawler, yet you have some evo parts on it. lol. What body is going to be on it? What motor is in it for now. Electronics?(servo, board etc.) Keep us updated. Can't wait for the final product

Thx!
Lol Yeah the evo motor craddle...Its not permanent i might go with some kind of tamiya gearbox tho so the 180 motor on it is not perm either.

I have no idea yet for the elctronic but i'll stick with a 4AAA battery setup with an hs-55 servo.

The esc will all depend on what i cana ctually get since i have no actual working ep atm.

EDIT: sorry i forgot about the body. Im not sure yet probably a jeep or wtv is gonna past throught my mind ;)

[Lancer_Man]

That's cool!

I'd mount the plastic piece in the middle, instead of off-center. That just seems more normal to me, lol. I'm not sure if it effects function, though...

Very creative so far, can't wait to see more. :D

[snowboi1289]

Very creative !!!!

I've been working on a rock crawler too. Gen.1 parts can be used alot, for different situations,such as this one.

Good work.

[c1v1c]

thx guys!
That's cool!

I'd mount the plastic piece in the middle, instead of off-center. That just seems more normal to me, lol. I'm not sure if it effects function, though...

Very creative so far, can't wait to see more. :D

Lol yeah thats what i thought but ive seen some off-centered i might have to do some search on the web ;)

[XMDrifter]

how are you gonna set up the steering?
hs-55 sounds good, but what mechanism?
just wondering

[mini-z drift]

Is it sturdy with just one bar down the middle? Or are you gonna make like and aluminum tub like chassis to hold everything from the motor and EP and servo? This is gonna turn out great imo.

[kungpow420]

the bar going down the middle is a torsion bar it is meant to twist instead of using shocks or leafs torsion chassis were first used on clods.

[TheXmodifyer]

Genious...pure genious. I am extremely eager to see this one in action. You'll be one to make it big someday.

[RedSXmodder]

Basically, you've got yourself a scaled down Pimpcane:

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w74/RedSXmodder/DSCF1934.jpg

Nice Job!

Later,
RedSXmodder

[c1v1c]

Hey I've found an old non-brand jeep body but i cant get pictures yet im not at home sorry.

how are you gonna set up the steering?
hs-55 sounds good, but what mechanism?
just wondering
Honestly i have no idea yet.:uhoh: one thing at a time uh?:P

the bar going down the middle is a torsion bar it is meant to twist instead of using shocks or leafs torsion chassis were first used on clods.

Yup thx for clearing this out.

Genious...pure genious. I am extremely eager to see this one in action. You'll be one to make it big someday.

Hey thanks :D

[Surgeon]

Great work and fabrication so far. It is great to see the original designs.

[texan_idiot25]

Toss another gen1 front end, and have 4-wheel-steer.

WAY cool idea, way cool.

[RedSXmodder]

Toss another gen1 front end, and have 4-wheel-steer.

WAY cool idea, way cool.

You'd have to upgrade to hobby grade elecs to do that...

Later,
RedSXmodder

[c1v1c]

Who said it wasnt?:bigwink:

But no 4ws yet :roll:


i'd be happy if the drivetain is strong enought under all that torque pressure.

[c1v1c]

UPDATE

Mounted the body, sits pretty high...

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/quam3900/IMG_0664.jpg
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/quam3900/IMG_0670-1.jpg
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/quam3900/IMG_0665.jpg
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/quam3900/IMG_0669-1.jpg

Oh and dont mind the driveshaft its plain ugly.
I'll order these instead.
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXJAD9&P=7
that might do the job.

I've also added weight to the wheels by putting sand in them. Helps for articulation.

[nitemeer]

wow... looks kind of weird to be honest xD but good project :)

[stang_racer]

for your steering issue you could drop the servo on to the top of the diff and have one bar that conects the tires so their strait then one going from one sides knuckle up to the servo ive seen it done many times in rock crawlers of bigger scale, ill look and see if i can find a pic of this set up for you

edit: on a second look it might be hard to do this set up seeing the way the knuckles are, you might beable to get away with it if you flip the knukles so that the eyelit faces out toward the front then try the above

[noturday]

wow that body does sit high, i think if i were you i'd mount the L-shaped parts that attach to the body on the underside of that sheet metal plate. it would lower it quite a bit

on second look it seems like the motor might get in the way of the body though....hmmm, tricky situation. im sure you'll get it the way you want it tho

[texan_idiot25]

You'd have to upgrade to hobby grade elecs to do that...

Later,
RedSXmodder
Not really. Wire another servo up. Play with the POT and motor wires so it will turn in reverse with out confusing the EP. Steering FETs could be burn, but... stacking them... would solve it.

Plus you can say "I have stacked steering FETs, take that!"


For the body... maybe cut the interior, and raise the floor up, al'la xmodification style to give room, and keep the interior.

[Donziikid]

wow that body does sit high, i think if i were you i'd mount the L-shaped parts that attach to the body on the underside of that sheet metal plate. it would lower it quite a bit

on second look it seems like the motor might get in the way of the body though....hmmm, tricky situation. im sure you'll get it the way you want it tho

As would the rest of the electronics get in the way. I suspect he has the body sitting so high so he can mount the electronics easily. Otherwise, where is he going to put his ESC, Receiver, ETC in such a small package?

This looks really neat with a body on it. Can't wait to see what you can come up with for the end product! :nod: :bigwink:

[texan_idiot25]

Otherwise, where is he going to put his ESC, Receiver, ETC in such a small package?

Take a gander at scale4x4 and check out their micro scales. ;)

[Donziikid]

Take a gander at scale4x4 and check out their micro scales. ;)

Yes, I know there are ways, but with a Jeep body there really isn't too much room to work with since the whole interior and trunk is wide open. Unless he makes a tool box and stuff to shove it into, I see very little room. Plus, I don't believe he would want to mount anything on his cross-brace or on his axles because that would be obvious and look awkward.

[texan_idiot25]

Yes, I know there are ways, but with a Jeep body there really isn't too much room to work with since the whole interior and trunk is wide open. Unless he makes a tool box and stuff to shove it into, I see very little room. Plus, I don't believe he would want to mount anything on his cross-brace or on his axles because that would be obvious and look awkward.
http://www.scale4x4rc.org/forums/showthread.php?t=12197&highlight=jeep
http://s29.photobucket.com/albums/c260/88swampedmj/?action=view&current=willysataddison.flv

Very possible to fit everything hobby grade, even into a scale rig.

[c1v1c]

@Noturday : Yep thats one big issue XD But yeah the evo motor craddle need to go. I'll just swap it for a tamiya universal gearboxe.

And dont worry guys i'll end up finding a way to hid all the electronic compartment. I hope...:roll:

anyways its not like this is a scale build, look at the size of the tires :eyecraz:

[c1v1c]

UPDATE

Sorry for the long update, i had to wait for my order from towerhobbies to come in.

Heres some pic.
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/quam3900/IMG_0975.jpg
Front axle, servo mounted
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/quam3900/IMG_0977.jpg
Shaved some of the rear axle
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/quam3900/IMG_0978.jpg
Tamiya universal gearboxe as a tranny
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/quam3900/IMG_0979.jpg
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/quam3900/IMG_0974.jpg
Unfortunately for this to end, I am in need of an esc...

Stay tuned

[Donziikid]

I'm shocked at the size of your wheel base. That's quite the stretch from front tire to rear tire. About how long is the whole RC and about how long is the wheel base?

What ESC do you plan on going with? If I were you, I'd try to find something that's an ESC and receiver all in one to reduce the size; something like the MicroT ESC/Receiver (http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=LOSB0803).

[ling427ttvette]

You really need to find a way to mount the front and rear axles as a chassis better. I don't see that holding up very well. Maybe it will, but it doesn't look like it.

I'm really digging this so far though.

[amorton94]

looks great!:D :o when it is finished , you shuld post a video of it crawling. and to lower the body , i'd cut a whole in the aluminum under the body, but that's me

[snowboi1289]

Wow, dint see that coming. I figured you would have went with 2 servo's.

It's looking really good. Are you planning on getting a bigger body for it??

[GearHeadV8]

hey you should attempt it to go 4WS lol just use 2 front ends and link the 2 servos together

[snowboi1289]

I think that'll be to difficult to drive.

[amorton94]

that would be difficult to drive, unless you messed around with the remote and made it so you only need one steering wheel insted of two

[snowboi1289]

You just put the servo on backwards, so it controls the reverse way. Say you turn left, it will turn right. You make one reverse, and the other normal..

[amorton94]

wow , you're pretty smart, i would have never of thought of that, now i want to make a extreme crawler like that one now:D :D

[ACDXZZ]

can u post a tutorial? I really need an xmod crawler

[snowboi1289]

can u post a tutorial? I really need an xmod crawler

Here you go http://www.xmodsource.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11590 .
Also, please dont thread jack, use the search feature.

[c1v1c]

Thanks for all you guys comments and sorry for the long replies, I've been waiting to have an update.

Anyways the wheel base from front to rear axle is 5 3/4 and the wheel base is exactly 4 inch long.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/quam3900/IMG_0625.jpg
yep...that sucks, But not anymore :D





http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/quam3900/IMG_0606.jpg
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/quam3900/IMG_0619.jpg
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/quam3900/IMG_0621.jpg
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/quam3900/IMG_0622.jpg
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/quam3900/IMG_0624.jpg
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/quam3900/IMG_0626.jpg
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/quam3900/IMG_0629.jpg
Hows the ground clearance? :D
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/quam3900/IMG_0628.jpg
Last but not the least,
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/quam3900/IMG_0632.jpg
That's how much the articulation is without the additional weight, So im pretty happy with it

[texan_idiot25]

http://veganfreakradio.com/o-face.jpg

:O

That is freaking awesome. Very nice work man. What u-joints are those on the axles?

[KITT222]

um, this doesnt look like a Gen 1 anymore.

[c1v1c]

http://veganfreakradio.com/o-face.jpg

:O

That is freaking awesome. Very nice work man. What u-joints are those on the axles?

Lmao:lol: Nice picture. Anyways thanks and its the duratrax drive shaft set
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXJAD9&P=7

um, this doesnt look like a Gen 1 anymore.

um, Honestly, Does it really care?

[texan_idiot25]

um, this doesnt look like a Gen 1 anymore.

Uses the gen1 front and rear suspension/axles. Plenty. :roll:

Thanks for the link C1v1c. Your kickin' my *** by putting this in the XMW comp. I can't think of what to get going on it. :eyecraz:

[c1v1c]

Uses the gen1 front and rear suspension/axles. Plenty. :roll:

Thanks for the link C1v1c. Your kickin' my *** by putting this in the XMW comp. I can't think of what to get going on it. :eyecraz:

:lol: :o quit working on ur real truck and get back to your good old DMX dragster :D And i heard THE COWBOY was gonna enter something and that, Sure will kick both of our *****. :nodno:

[texan_idiot25]

Dunno if it's allowed, non-xmods electronics!

Good to see CowboySiR back in action

[c1v1c]

4. Electronics can be xmod based but can also be aftermarket

Anyways I cant get enough of Cowboysir everytime's he shows up.

[BulletsRain]

That crawler is epic. I mean I am speechless....

[scoter]

thats cool, good work

[booman]

that is sick man

[wadethejuggalo]

what kind of tires are you using?

[c1v1c]

Took them from a old cheap rc toys.

Man...The drivetrain keep on loosen up, Its too weak.

[texan_idiot25]

what part is loosening?

And what brand superglue?

[c1v1c]

I've tried super glue(dont know wich brand, dont have it here atm) , jb-weld, contact glue, Plastic would only stick on metal for a while only.

I've been fixing it for hours today and now the shfats that connects to the bevel gear is bulletproof but now its were the universal gearbox is connected to.

[texan_idiot25]

Crazy glue is my god.

Maybe try some epoxy?

[GearHeadV8]

coolio anydates

[c1v1c]

Crazy glue is my god.

Maybe try some epoxy?

Alright I'll look into that.

coolio anydates

anydates?!?

[DRFTKO]

You might want to try some Gorilla Glue. It is strong as can be, but it is very messy. The stuff sometimes has a mind of it's own.:lol:

[Donziikid]

Are you sanding/scruffing up the metal before you try to glue the piece to it? Stupid question, I know, but it's so simple and sometimes forgotten. It seems as if your metal is very, very shiny with very little abrasions. Hit it with some sandpaper to give it something to stick to. Just a thought.

This is turning out very nicely! Good work and glad to see you got a piece of metal instead of plastic holding everything. :D

[c1v1c]

You might want to try some Gorilla Glue. It is strong as can be, but it is very messy. The stuff sometimes has a mind of it's own.:lol:

Thanks for the suggestion. :bigwink:

Are you sanding/scruffing up the metal before you try to glue the piece to it? Stupid question, I know, but it's so simple and sometimes forgotten. It seems as if your metal is very, very shiny with very little abrasions. Hit it with some sandpaper to give it something to stick to. Just a thought.

This is turning out very nicely! Good work and glad to see you got a piece of metal instead of plastic holding everything. :D

I didn't, It was a threaded shaft so i figured out i could screw it in with an additional drop of jb-weld. But i guess it got loosen up.

And yeah i've been looking around my house for a month just to found out that wonderful piece of metal :lol:

[torredo]

very creative & unique! love it

[wadethejuggalo]

i think you might want to look for a bigger body that jeep looks a little ridiculous but not my xmod but still very nice

[c1v1c]

i think you might want to look for a bigger body that jeep looks a little ridiculous but not my xmod but still very nice

Thanks for all you guys comments and sorry for the long replies, I've been waiting to have an update.

Anyways the wheel base from front to rear axle is 5 3/4 and the wheel base is exactly 4 inch long.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/quam3900/IMG_0625.jpg
yep...that sucks, But not anymore :D





http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/quam3900/IMG_0606.jpg
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/quam3900/IMG_0619.jpg
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/quam3900/IMG_0621.jpg
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/quam3900/IMG_0622.jpg
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/quam3900/IMG_0624.jpg
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/quam3900/IMG_0626.jpg
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/quam3900/IMG_0629.jpg
Hows the ground clearance? :D
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/quam3900/IMG_0628.jpg
Last but not the least,
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/quam3900/IMG_0632.jpg
That's how much the articulation is without the additional weight, So im pretty happy with it

...Page 2 i think you should read the whole thread befor wrtting soemthing.

[wadethejuggalo]

oh ok sorry

[c1v1c]

oh ok sorry

Is this better tho? :D

[c1v1c]

Here's a short vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnUzFEbQG9A

Sorry If it took a while....

Btw, It's not done yet, Still have to think about a better and lower placement for the batteries.

[BulletsRain]

Nice. Will you make it to where it articulates more, or just leave it at that? It does good though. I really like the creativeness. :lol: ;)

[mustanglover]

so you going to make the stick pivot?

[c1v1c]

so you going to make the stick pivot?

Flex, adjust/add more weight to both axles, I might also drill some holes into it.

[fieldfairy2]

It does do pretty well. You may want to get a metal tube/stick and mount it to each side of the chassis, for articulation, it could use a little more. Otherwise than that very creative. A+

[taiwanesekid05]

Where'd the flex go?

[xmodzracer]

this truck is amazing in engineering and design

[wadethejuggalo]

the f-150 body looks sweet!! really love the drive shaft idea really creative

[c1v1c]

I'll let the pictures talk.
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/quam3900/IMG_1182.jpg
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/quam3900/IMG_1183.jpg
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/quam3900/IMG_1184.jpg
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/quam3900/IMG_1185.jpg
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/quam3900/IMG_1186.jpg

[KITT222]

that, body looks, um... a little too small. but it still looks good!

[kendallcschm]

looks good

[c1v1c]

As long as it protects the board, Big or small, it doesn't matter much.
I don't like the f-150 body so until I found a new body that i like, the jeep will stay!

[KITT222]

ok. its your truck. what i meant to say was from some angles it looks a little small and incomplete. but from the top it looks good! have you tried any model truck bodies?

[BulletsRain]

Looks good man!

[c1v1c]

ok. its your truck. what i meant to say was from some angles it looks a little small and incomplete. but from the top it looks good! have you tried any model truck bodies?


Yeah but i'd rather find a cheap toy body and hack half of it off then doing a scale conversion on these two inches tall tires. :nod:

Looks good man!

Thanks bud!

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/quam3900/IMG_1242.jpg
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/quam3900/IMG_1243.jpg

Started an offroad course But as you can see, I still need alot of rocks.

[Donziikid]

[IMG=]http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/quam3900/IMG_1242.jpg[/I=MG]
[IMG=]http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/quam3900/IMG_1243.jpg[/IM=G]

Started an offroad course But as you can see, I still need alot of rocks.

Go pick up a bag of Quick-Creet from Lowes or Home Depot. I saw an add in both of their papers today for a 80lb bag for $5. Can't beat that, and for some small rocks/offroad course, you cannot go wrong. ;)

And if it turns out bad and you don't like it, it was only $5.