June 2008 COTM; "Muscle Car" Discussion Thread:

[Donziikid]

This is the discussion thread for the June 2008 COTM (http://www.xmodsource.com/forum/showthread.php?p=163233#post163233). Discussion must take place here, not in the entry thread.

Thank you,
Xmodsource Moderating Staff.

[clintr79]

man XMODification that camaro is sick so far you have my vote unless someone steps it up

[fiberworkz]

man Bondo that camaro is sick so far you have my vote unless someone steps it up


The Camaro belong to MR.X.:bigwink:
But at any rate it is realy cool.:nod:

[noturday]

man Bondo that camaro is sick so far you have my vote unless someone steps it up

that's XMODification's, not Bondo's haha

i'm gonna have to try to finish my chevelle project by the 30th, it was OOC for a while, but i just put a new board in it today and its runnin great now. if everyone else is just starting their projects, why shouldnt i be able to finish a project that's already started haha i'll get to work on it now, put the f150 on the back burner till its done

[fordman239]

:uhoh: i entered mine today,it probably wont win but at least im tried.

[clintr79]

Sorry Xmodification for the mistake i fixed it in the original post lol

[XmodzICON82]

could i use my pontiac firebird in this comp

[fiberworkz]

could i use my pontiac firebird in this comp

Rules for this Competition:
1. Your shell must be a domestic muscle car. Year, make and model do not matter as long as it is domestic muscle.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bondo
American Muscle = 2,000+ curb weight (in Lbs), american car produced by an american car company that came with a V8 version even if the base model was a V6.

we have to go by the original manufacture's specs of the body used since there is no way to make an electic R/C car "muscle".

if the base model is a V6 or smaller, then it's a tuner, not a muscle car.

2. Must be a non-RadioShack upgrade on your car.




I'd say yes you could.:bigwink:

[Classiclover]

Does the non-RadioShack upgrade need to be on the chassis? Or could it be something like a custom body?

[texan_idiot25]

Custom body is a-ok.

[fordman239]

custom body i do believe as long as its a muscle car.

[xmodkidd33]

2008 S281 SuperCharged Specifications: (AKA Saleen Mustang, AKA Barricade.)

ENGINE

281 CID (4.6L) 3-Valve SOHC V8
465 HP @ 5800 RPM
425 lb-ft TQ @ 4000 RPM
3.55” x 3.54” Bore & Stroke
39 lb/hr Fuel Injectors
98 mm MAF
Port Matched Series VI Integrated Twin-Screw Supercharger
Dual-Stage Water-to-Air Intercooler System
Hi-Flow Inlet Tube, Air Box Cover & Filter
PowerFlash™ Performance Calibration
2.5” Stainless Steel Center Exhaust System

[XmodzICON82]

i have a model of 1965 shelby cobra 427...is this able to be used in the cotm comp.

[texan_idiot25]

Obviously, yes sir.

[XmodzICON82]

sweet

[texan_idiot25]

Pretty much all the obvious choices of Camaros Mustangs Firebirds 'Cudas Chargers Cutlesses Chevelles Novas Malibus GTOs Challengers and such are Muscle cars...

The obvious choices for Muscle cars are allowed.

[fordman239]

2008 S281 SuperCharged Specifications: (AKA Saleen Mustang, AKA Barricade.)

ENGINE

281 CID (4.6L) 3-Valve SOHC V8
465 HP @ 5800 RPM
425 lb-ft TQ @ 4000 RPM
3.55” x 3.54” Bore & Stroke
39 lb/hr Fuel Injectors
98 mm MAF
Port Matched Series VI Integrated Twin-Screw Supercharger
Dual-Stage Water-to-Air Intercooler System
Hi-Flow Inlet Tube, Air Box Cover & Filter
PowerFlash™ Performance Calibration
2.5” Stainless Steel Center Exhaust System


my sister has a 94 t-bird with that same motor, does that make it a mucsle car?

[bondo]

you guys are making this way too hard.
an example of a domestic tuner would be a sunfire or probe.
4-6 Cyl. cars that dont have a V8 factory option.
if it's a domestic CAR and you can buy it with a V8 then it's conscidered muscle.
it may not be the same deffinition that it was 30 years ago but times and regulations have changed.

[stangdude94]

cant u get a v-8 probe

[texan_idiot25]

Nope...

This is simple a very one. V8, RWD, American, Car, power, torque. No Probes, no domestic ricers (Dodge Stealth/Mitsu 3000GT, etc), No imports with american power under the hood (supercharged 383 CRX)

If the concept really blows your mind at the moment, please read:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_car

[TheB1GDude]

Whilst you lot where all arguing about what you could enter I went ahead and finished of my sweet Firebird!!! Its totally gonna win because its sick..... no where near the level of skill required for the R1G just a plain old badly paint shell with some basic electronic upgrades and custom tires...... :)

[xmodkidd33]

Since Fordman is banned, does that mean he is DQ'd?

[Classiclover]

I'll put something up as soon as I manage to paint it well. I'm new to airbrushes and can't put down a good coat. Back to the tutorial page!

[suicide_star]

Since Fordman is banned, does that mean he is DQ'd?

no, he's not DQ'd unless he gets banned during voting.

[Surgeon]

Really, should we both DQing him? I mean its a stock 65 stang, it has a snow ball's chance in hell at winning. He is at least participating, but I think the competition is focused more on custom jobs.

[suicide_star]

Really, should we both DQing him? I mean its a stock 65 stang, it has a snow ball's chance in hell at winning. He is at least participating, but I think the competition is focused more on custom jobs.

his car is legit. it actually has a CF driveshaft and a 6th cell mod and even though the body is stock, it still looks pretty cool (at least it isn't mutilated with 8 coats of paint and sporting cut out fenderwells). it's bondo's competition, so it's his call in my opinion; but, the more the merrier. :)

[Surgeon]

his car is legit. it actually has a CF driveshaft and a 6th cell mod and even though the body is stock, it still looks pretty cool (at least it isn't mutilated with 8 coats of paint and sporting cut out fenderwells). it's bondo's competition, so it's his call in my opinion; but, the more the merrier. :)

Anything with all bought parts is stock in my opinion. I can slap GPM all over a pontiac and call it custom, but its not.

[suicide_star]

Anything with all bought parts is stock in my opinion. I can slap GPM all over a pontiac and call it custom, but its not.

Touche' hard to argue with that. hmmm...well anyways, if anybody's wondering...i'm entering a '64 Pontiac GTO...w/custom wheels, some cool chassis mods made from an ipod shuffle case and stuff...it may not be epic, but it sure is a pain in the ***. :lol:

[noturday]

Touche' hard to argue with that. hmmm...well anyways, if anybody's wondering...i'm entering a '64 Pontiac GTO...w/custom wheels, some cool chassis mods made from an ipod shuffle case and stuff...it may not be epic, but it sure is a pain in the ***. :lol:

i hear ya, the car I'm working on hasn't been making things easy on me, thats for sure. sounds like a sweet car though, cant wait for the competition.

BTW, all my entry car needs is body paint and then it will be complete :bigwink: , it might be next week before weather cooperates so i can paint though :( its supposed to rain throughout the weekend here :cry: im ready to finish it

[Donziikid]

Fordman's entry is legal as long as he's here for voting. If you don't like it, don't vote for it. It meets the rules for the compition, so it's a legal entrant.

[texan_idiot25]

You can enter as effortless of a car as you feel, just means you may not win.

If he is banned around voting time then he is DQ'd yes.


In the mean time, who wants to bet they can land a 747 on the hood of my Buick?


http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e321/texan_idiot25/buickmodel012.jpg
From the rear bumper, the Bumble Bee Camaro only reaches the bottom of the windshield, lol.

[xmodkidd33]

Ask Donzi to land one of his RC planes on the hood, Tex. :D

[Donziikid]

Ask Donzi to land one of his RC planes on the hood, Tex. :D

This model body isn't even the size of one blade on half of my props. Lmao.

[xmodsnut]

I should enter my 04 stang but it dont have the paint job. I put all my dough under the body in gpm parts.:lol: the best looking one my firebird sits on a rs souped up chassis. the rules kinda bit for this one.:nodno:

[bondo]

I should enter my 04 stang but it dont have the paint job. I put all my dough under the body in gpm parts.:lol: the best looking one my firebird sits on a rs souped up chassis. the rules kinda bit for this one.:nodno:

you can enter it. it doesnt have to be a custom paintjob.
as long as you did the work and it has some non-RS upgrades on it.

[firebird]

some cars can be bone stock on the outside, but its the inside that counts.:bigwink:

[XmodzICON82]

could a 1967 chevelle ss 396 be used....

[fieldfairy2]

could a 1967 chevelle ss 396 be used....

chevelle... a muscle car. yes it can be used. to me that is one of the easiest ones to figure out if it is eligible for this cotm. sorry if i sound mean.

if i can get some good weather outside i might take some new updated pics and you guys will have a new entry:D

[fordman239]

im baaaaaaaaaaaack, yes, i am here for the voting. all the applicants look great, the cars.

[xmodkidd33]

If I get my white Barricade done by the deadline, can I enter that instead of my gold one?

[fieldfairy2]

I put in 8 pics, which is still in the competions rules. photobucket always makes the first picture a link. so i added the same pic that showed up as a link. i have 9 pics now, with one repeated because photobucket makes the first pic a link. Is that okay? if not please tell me and i will delete one.

[Donziikid]

If I get my white Barricade done by the deadline, can I enter that instead of my gold one?

Yes.

I put in 8 pics, which is still in the competions rules. photobucket always makes the first picture a link. so i added the same pic that showed up as a link. i have 9 pics now, with one repeated because photobucket makes the first pic a link. Is that okay? if not please tell me and i will delete one.

It's fine. Since it's a double, I just deleted the link and now you're back to eight. ;)

[fieldfairy2]

It's fine. Since it's a double, I just deleted the link and now you're back to eight. ;)

thanks man.

[texan_idiot25]

Photobucket doesn't make the 1st pic a link, the site's software has a problem with the images if you have a space anywhere in the Photobucket link. Say you have an album called "My Pics", since there is a space in the album name, when you put the full link "photobucket.com/texan/my%pics/lol.jpg" the % that takes place of the space in your album name, and for what ever reason, messes with the forum software and it refuses to show a pic. Take the space out of the album name (or use an underscore _) and it no longer does this.

Don't ask me why the site does it, but I've noticed it does this on sites that use this forum software.

:eyecraz:

[Donziikid]

Photobucket doesn't make the 1st pic a link, the site's software has a problem with the images if you have a space anywhere in the Photobucket link. Say you have an album called "My Pics", since there is a space in the album name, when you put the full link "photobucket.com/texan/my%pics/lol.jpg" the % that takes place of the space in your album name, and for what ever reason, messes with the forum software and it refuses to show a pic. Take the space out of the album name (or use an underscore _) and it no longer does this.

Don't ask me why the site does it, but I've noticed it does this on sites that use this forum software.

:eyecraz:

It only does this when you edit a post, too. When you edit your post, make sure you go to the "Advanced Edit" instead of the "quick edit." This will ensure that all your pictures will remain as [img] and not show up as a link. ;)

[fieldfairy2]

Ahhh. that makes sense. i noticed that when you edit it does it too. thanks texan.

[Donziikid]

Blue504Life -- I need one more picture from you. You're required to supply six pictures when making a submission, I only see five.

Benoj -- Welcome to the competition and welcome back to XMS. Haven't seen you here in a while.

Thanks, guys. :)

[blue504life]

Blue504Life -- I need one more picture from you. You're required to supply six pictures when making a submission, I only see five.

my bad i thought we only needed 5, ill add one shortly

[Donziikid]

my bad i thought we only needed 5, ill add one shortly

Thanks. You're in the competition.

I only have five pictures, and my camera is 80 miles away. Only camera I have would be my Moto Q, and its camera SUCKS..

Either take it with the MotoQ or find another camera before the competition is up. Without six pictures your entry is void.

[ling427ttvette]

Thanks. You're in the competition.



Either take it with the MotoQ or find another camera before the competition is up. Without six pictures your entry is void.

Don't worry, I WILL have a picture before this ends. Not sure if I'll be getting my regular camera back though, so I'll snap one with the Q tonight, or my girls phone.. hers is a little better quality.

[ling427ttvette]

6th picture added, all is well. :)

[Donziikid]

6th picture added, all is well. :)

Yupp, you're in. Thanks for the sixth picture and good luck! :)

[aaronz350z]

i want to enter a ford gt 40, it came with a v8 and weighed 2002lbs will it work

[TheXmodifyer]

That "V6 or smaller is a tuner" rule is bull****. Take in example a 68 corvette, v6. A 69 Camaro, V6. 65 Catalina, V6. 69 Coronet, V4! 69 Nova, V4!

Long story short, I think this rule should be removed. We all know the difference between a Muscle car and a tuner here.

[Surgeon]

That "V6 or smaller is a tuner" rule is bull****. Take in example a 68 corvette, v6. A 69 Camaro, V6. 65 Catalina, V6. 69 Coronet, V4! 65 Nova, I4!

Long story short, I think this rule should be removed. We all know the difference between a Muscle car and a tuner here.

I would like to address this issue, so that it doesn't come up again. Bondo was willing to donate back a percentage of the money he won, per competition guidlines he gets to pick the category and state the stipulations. If you want to throw in 50 bucks of your own money, by all means, next month you can do a 4 cylinder or less competition.

As far as your point on cars, all of those cars save the catalina( I am not sure of) have 8 cylinder counterparts. They may not be that particular trim or year, but the bodystyle did have an eight cylinder variant--therefore they would qualify. The rule in itself was to keep FWD 4 cylinder domestics out of the competition. No VR4 dodge stealths or cavaliers. I am sure that if you even wanted to build a drag spec imitation gremlin or pacer Bondo would more than likely allow it in the competion-although these are subcompacts of their era, the v8 swap is very common place-especially for drag purposes.

Try not to over analyze the rules, if you don't like the stipulations set you are not required to compete; wait until the next competition. If you have an entry you are not sure of, send it to a mod and it will be looked over. The point is to have fun.

[texan_idiot25]

That "V6 or smaller is a tuner" rule is bull****. Take in example a 68 corvette, v6. A 69 Camaro, V6. 65 Catalina, V6. 69 Coronet, V4! 69 Nova, V4!

Long story short, I think this rule should be removed. We all know the difference between a Muscle car and a tuner here.

Are you smoking something? Every single car you mentioned came with a V8.

And the Vette has NEVER had a V6.(Original Vette had a Straight 6 before getting the SBC, but no V6 and certainly not in the 68)
69 Camaro, did not have a V6. (Slant 6)
The 69 Catalina was all V8.
Coronet, no V6. (Slant 6)
Nova, no V4. (Straight 4)

You didn't get a single thing right in that entire statement. Before you go and try and waive the rules as BS, and make a fool out of yourself, check your facts and the rules. All of those cars you mentioned are good for the comp.

[TheXmodifyer]

Are you smoking something? Every single car you mentioned came with a V8.

And the Vette has NEVER had a V6.(Original Vette had a Straight 6 before getting the SBC)
69 Camaro, did not have a V6. (Slant 6)
The 69 Catalina was all V8.
Coronet, no V6. (Slant 6)
Nova, no V4. (Straight 4)

You didn't get a single thing right in that entire statement.

Actually Smartass, I know exactly what Im talking about. A 68 Corvette came with a 427 V6, 435 HP engine. A 69 Camaro came with a 427 V6 option. Most cars i mentioned had the option of the V6 or V8. For instance, the camaro also couldve come with a 350, 396 or a 427.

[texan_idiot25]

Actually Smartass, I know exactly what Im talking about. A 68 Corvette came with a 427 V6, 435 HP engine. A 69 Camaro came with a 427 V6 option. Most cars i mentioned had the option of the V6 or V8. For instance, the camaro also couldve come with a 350, 396 or a 427.
GM has never had a 427ci V6.

The 427 is a V8. :lol:

Only GMC Trucks had large displacement V6 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GMC_V6_engine)s, and they were no HP monsters, purely built for Torque.

The Chevy 427, that's a V8. The COPO Camaro (ZL1) came with the L76 427 V8. The Corvette had the L88 427. But the 68 had been made to 454. And none of the cars you mentioned had V6s in the years you gave us. The 3rd Gen F-Body was the only car you mentioned that did eventually have a V6. At a whopping 130 hp.

[ling427ttvette]

Actually Smartass, I know exactly what Im talking about. A 68 Corvette came with a 427 V6, 435 HP engine. A 69 Camaro came with a 427 V6 option. Most cars i mentioned had the option of the V6 or V8. For instance, the camaro also couldve come with a 350, 396 or a 427.

Oh my god you're kidding me right?

A 427 c.i V6? I know you're not serious, I KNOW you're not serious. No one can possibly think this is true.

A 427 is a BIG BLOCK 8 cylinder engine. And I'm not even sure they were offered with 427's, I think 396's were the biggest Camaros got. I might be wrong, I dont study up on the old Camaros that much. I know Chevelles received 454's though.

If it were a V-6, it was not 427 cubic inches. You sir, fail.

[Donziikid]

Welcome to the competition, Stangdude! :)

[Surgeon]

Welcome to the competition, Stangdude! :)

+1

Nice cuda. The front wheels look a little small, you should try to double stack the tires on it to give it more girth and a better muscle car stance. Other than that it is a great little project.

[stangdude94]

thanks surg

and to the other compterors:
May the best muscle car win

[Classiclover]

I was going to enter my 1969 Merc Cougar Eliminator, but I wasn't able to finish painting it or mount it. I might make it in with something else next time.
Good luck to everyone in the comp.

[Surgeon]

I was going to enter my 1969 Merc Cougar Eliminator, but I wasn't able to finish painting it or mount it. I might make it in with something else next time.
Good luck to everyone in the comp.

You still have 5 days... I think your going to need a montage.

[texan_idiot25]

I need a dremel cut-off wheel. :uhoh:

Hopefully will be done this weekend. :nod:

[noturday]

I need a dremel cut-off wheel. :uhoh:

Hopefully will be done this weekend. :nod:

oh how i wish i could help, both of my dremmels are here, but all of the accessories and cut off wheels are at our lake house....someone forgot to bring them home last time....:uhoh:

[crawlin duckies]

so im kind new so was wondering if its to late to enter and if someone could point me in the right direction to the rules for the cars

[Donziikid]

so im kind new so was wondering if its to late to enter and if someone could point me in the right direction to the rules for the cars

The rules for each specific COTM is in the Entry Thread in the first post.

http://www.xmodsource.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13224

However, you're not able to participate in this months COTM because you haven't been a member here long enough. To participate in this months COTM you would have had to have been a member since May 5, 2008.

[crawlin duckies]

The rules for each specific COTM is in the Entry Thread in the first post.

http://www.xmodsource.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13224

However, you're not able to participate in this months COTM because you haven't been a member here long enough. To participate in this months COTM you would have had to have been a member since May 5, 2008.

darn....:cry: ok sounds good so i pretty much have to be a member for more than a month to compete??? oh well its all good i can save my muscle for another time thanks tho donzii

[taiwanesekid05]

I need a dremel cut-off wheel.

I need a dremel... :cry:

[fordman239]

i like everyones cars, except for... nm, dont want to start something. the cuda does look nice, and i love the custom rims and hood on that mustang, also the camaro by XMODification looks great. may the best car (MINE!!!) win, lol.

[crawlin duckies]

noturday i love the chevelle... if you ever plan on selling it (probably wont happen) pm me but i gotta wait till i have enough post to do that.. as for the other cars i love them, the cuda if almost flawless :rr:

[texan_idiot25]

For me it's a toss between Noturday's Chevelle and ShapeCharge's stang.

[crawlin duckies]

For me it's a toss between Noturday's Chevelle and ShapeCharge's stang.

if i was able to vote it would be noturdays chevelle or the cuda

[texan_idiot25]

Not enough detail in the Cuda compared to Noturday's IMO

[crawlin duckies]

Not enough detail in the Cuda compared to Noturday's IMO

true but if you look at the original cudas in person all they have only the stripe all the way across the body on both sides.. or the same graphic like the one in the comp

[suicide_star]

GTO is still in the works...so far i really like noturday's chevelle...awesome details and very clean paint.

[texan_idiot25]

true but if you look at the original cudas in person all they have only the stripe all the way across the body on both sides.. or the same graphic like the one in the comp

Interior, engine, painted details, etc. The over-all car IMO is why I'd vote for it. ;)

[fordman239]

i like noturdays chevelle, it gets my vote.

[Donziikid]

Yeah, yeah, you all say that now until it comes to voting time and you all change your mind to someone different. :p

Three days, guys.

[crawlin duckies]

well noturday misses out on my vote i havent been a member long enough to vote in this one:cry:

[Jalengrayson]

noturday that was one hell of a muscle...

i like how you placed the interior on the chassis

[imnotmikal]

I'm voting for Noturday.
Or if SS's GTfO or Texan's Wildcat get finished in time, it'll be a tough decision.

[fordman239]

i fabbed up my 71 torino cobra last night, today i bought a 55 bel air, was thinkin about changing again, but decied not to, another project, another day.:roll:

[Classiclover]

I've got five pics of mine so I still need another. I don't think I'll enter it though. The paint didn't come out too good, a few parts are missing and it's not mounted well.
It makes sense though, very little experience with custom bodies and it's an old model, not in the best of shape. Not everything fit the way it should have.
Of course, I might change my mind...

[fordman239]

well, im new to custom bodies 2, the torino is only my second one, and here are the 2 that i did.

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii192/fordman239/6-28-06001.jpg
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii192/fordman239/xmods/6-2-08009-1.jpg

[texan_idiot25]

I'm voting for Noturday.
Or if SS's GTfO or Texan's Wildcat get finished in time, it'll be a tough decision.

Ahem! I may be a slacker, a p-r-o-crastinat-or, but I get it done.
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e321/texan_idiot25/buick%20wildcat/IMG_5966.jpg

[imnotmikal]

Duct taped deck lid, is it holding the lid down or the Bumper on?
Both :p
That thing is beautifully disgusting.
I love it.
I don't know who to vote for now...

[texan_idiot25]

Haha, thanks.

Shapecharge's Mustang (it's a really awesome build, check it out on XMW) Suicide's GTO, and Noturday's Chevelle are looking good to me....

GOod comp :nod:

[theruns]

i came in kinda late cuz i thought it was closed already. but i like texan's it looks very realistic. lol

[Donziikid]

i came in kinda late cuz i thought it was closed already. but i like texan's it looks very realistic. lol

Read the rules, you're missing two pictures. -- Kyle.

[crawlin duckies]

Read the rules, you're missing two pictures. -- Kyle.

wait he hasnt been a member long enough... sry not to bash on you runs

[Donziikid]

wait he hasnt been a member long enough... sry not to bash on you runs

He has been a member since January 2008. He's been here long enough. ;)

TheRuns -- Cute, but the images need to be your car in it's current state, not the state it was in before.. You still need a sixth image by 9:00PM EST.

[crawlin duckies]

He has been a member since January 2008. He's been here long enough. ;)

TheRuns -- Cute, but the images need to be your car in it's current state, not the state it was in before.. You still need a sixth image by 9:00PM EST.

oh sry i forgot you can see the date on the side of the post... never mind lol let the show go on!!

[BART]

Ahem! I may be a slacker, a p-r-o-crastinat-or, but I get it done.

Definitely the most original, I like it, now drop shooter in the mail headed for my house:nod:

[theruns]

i fixed the pictures and sorry for the screwed upness (not that that is a word or anything) this is my first comp.

[stangdude94]

i edited my entry kinda last minute but i made it

check it out

may the best muscle car win

[Donziikid]

Voting thread will be up later tonight or tomorrow morning.

Cheers,
Kyle.

[fiberworkz]

Exellent competition guys! It will be very hard for me to pick who to vote for. I've got it culled down to Noturday, SS and Shapcharge but I'm not sure which one vote for.:nodno: But I'll get it figured out.:bigwink: