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CUSTOM
03-11-2008, 02:19 PM
first off, 56k: YOU'RE SCREWED.
Everyone else has to wait 5 minutes for the page to load :p

:D Transfering everything from my jeep project (started on GSR forums a year ago):

So, i rememberd posting a sneak-peak of this project a while back . . . but now it's starting to move. I've spent the last few months shorting the chasis, building the body, and thinking of how to lower the circut board/battery mount thingy (body is in the way). I've finaly decided to do a stock-height cj7 because:
1) i like stock jeeps (non-hardtop ones)
2) looks weird lifted too high
3) more chalnging chalenges

so far i've made a custom really-short (shorter than the h2) chassis spacer, build half the body, found a working mini-z overland board (mine!!). I am prettymuch going doorless with spare gas cans and a spare tire. im deciding on weather to use the offroad-roll bar or the stock one(pic down the page).
so here's what i have sofar:
spacer comparison (one on left is the custom one)
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/9812/jeepcj1fw4.gif
tire comparison Left-Right: xmod f150, jeep model, mini-zracer.com tracker
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/9568/jeepcj2fd7.gif
body/chassis length
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/5697/jeepcj3hn5.gif
^_^
http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/2306/jeepcj4om7.gif
some of the accesories
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/2915/jeepcj5rn3.gif
box pics:
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/1562/jeepcj6lj8.gif
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/4230/jeepcj7lt1.gif
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/4260/jeepcj8wc4.gif

Update!!! :D
ok, so i got a rolling chassis from my friend yesterday so i got this project really moving now. I instaled the mini-z esc, fitted the front part of the chassis under the hood, and, ummm . .. some other stuff :)
each picture is worth 1000 words <_<
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/7757/jpupdate1afy0.jpg
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2910/jpupdate1bkl8.jpg
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/7072/jpupdate1ceq0.jpg
http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/7779/jpupdate1dlq7.jpg
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/886/jpupdate1ezn2.jpg
The only problem is the steering is reversed :angry: I've juggle the wires aroun with no luck. Now mr. screwdriver meets the KT-5!

Well, i hope you excuse this double post but, UPDATE:
Luckly i had another mini-z EP laying around (i have a graveyard of an overland, mr-01, and mr-02. dont ask how they got there.) So, i wont mess with the electronics until i need them. I started a custom chassis of some really thick styrene (same stuff as DanielK's), got a perfect-length driveshaft, and hacked away some stuff ^_^
chassis pics:
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/232/jpprojc1wi9.jpg
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/4017/jpprojc2gy0.jpg
half-chassis and body:
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/6774/jpprojc3xm4.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/7843/jpprojc4ho3.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/1380/jpprojc5bb3.jpg
I'm not a very good chassis designer, so I'd really appreciate some help, any pictures/photoshops i will worship you :mellow:

Ok, i had nothing to do waiting to get my pro-pulse parts in the mail:
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/5710/jeeproolc1yz4.jpg
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/9365/jeeproolc2uu4.jpg
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/8921/jeeproolc3sf3.jpg
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/4123/jeeproolc4ee4.jpg
i made a roll cage and made some space in the back of the jeep.

Alrighty, here's an *UPDATE*!

I got the rear of the chassis to connect to the rest using a gen1 motor mount/brace. Now it can flex and have four wheel drive :D . I'm thinking of having a mid-motor so i can get everything under the body.

Here's a video on the chassis: *Click to see very bad discription of chassis* (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNq1_JbjI2E)

And here's some pretty pictures:

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/6523/xmdjpchassis1sj2.jpg
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/5083/xmdjpchassis2tq7.jpg
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/1375/xmdjpchassis3ay6.jpg
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/8981/xmdjpchassis4cn1.jpg

In order to get that big mr01 diff gear to fit on the chassis I need to make a hole so it will fit.

Here is a rough idea of what it could look like:
with roll-cage:
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/7857/xmdjpp1uz1.jpg
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/6995/xmdjpp2rz1.jpg
no roll-cage:
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/6841/xmdjpp3xe6.jpg

It still needs tons of work.

I've had some time to work with it yesterday so I got a gear on the driveshaft (hardest part) and now I just need to mount a motor. I'm still deciding weather to use a stock stage1 motor directly on the driveshaft or a HS-55 micro servo. I don't want it to go too slow or too fast, but about avarage.
http://static.filefront.com/images/personal/l/l33tkawasaki/68996/wzspmvpcmx.thumb500.jpg
http://static.filefront.com/images/personal/l/l33tkawasaki/68996/jawltupcbp.thumb500.jpg
http://static.filefront.com/images/personal/l/l33tkawasaki/68996/yeudfsbahl.thumb500.jpg
mounting the stage1 motor wil require cutting a piece out of the chassis and having the motor sticking out of the bottom.

ITS ALIVE!!
...
Well, almost. I finally got the guts to repair my fried board and now I have some electronics! I spent all day yesterday and today repairing, installing, and testing the new PCB. I also mounted the hitec HS-55 servo so it has tons of crawling torque. As a bonus: I fitted it with 5 1/4 aaa cells at 120mah each (5-10 min runtime with the hs-55 drive servo. low amperage ^_^). Some how, I managed to cram all this in minus the fine details (antenna, seats, ect.), which I will get in soon. I have yet to buy some micro-deans and drive it from a distance!
Enjoy thy pictures!!! :D
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/8020/jeepralive1jx9.jpg
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/8021/jeepralive2pt8.jpg
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/3905/jeepralive3ks0.jpg
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/1034/jeepralive4sw1.jpg
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/407/jeepralive5ui1.jpg
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/8056/jeepralive6vq4.jpg
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5738/jeepralive7vq8.jpg
Please excuse my poor pictures, I was in a hurry because I still have homework to do! :(

The batteries lasted way longer than I expected! With charged batteries, I drove it for 35 mins, with energy to spare! I think I could get 10 more minutes off of it if I kept driving it, and it only takes less than 5 mins to charge! :D Now that I got the vital components in, now I just need to work on the finish.
Here's a video to see how it performs:
Jeep First Runs

Not much of an update, but I got the MR-01 board mounted vertically and the batteries moved. It may look un-realistic now, but when I add the dashboard, the roll cage, and hide the switches and plugs underneath the hood, most people would hardly notice the interior and will be staring at the rest of the truck. Anyway, here are the pics:
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/6191/jeep1011gy0.jpg
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/6229/jeep1012vj8.jpg
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/4923/jeep1013fh8.jpg
I'm still working on it...

Wow it's been a long time since I updated this thread.

Anyway, about a month ago I primed the jeep body. Then I just gathered up ideas to improve the chassis (space wise). Today I made a more "roomy" and neat chassis plate out of ABS plastic. It uses a larger gear from a diff. replacement set my dad had (from a Tamiya 4wd Racer?) and a stock mini-z motor for more speed (hopefully 100 times faster), while maintaining torque to get over most obstacles. I then sanded it down, and installed ball-bearings. I'm planning to use a custom saddle pack out of two micro-t/dt batteries (or just one pack if I don't have room).
Pics:
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/9196/jeepupdate104ro8.jpg
New chassis plate
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/6533/jeepupdate101dk9.jpg
Old one
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/6488/jeepupdate102nk8.jpg
New and old together (note edge & surface quality differences)
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/5266/jeepupdate105jn0.jpg
New and old motors
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/4722/jeepupdate103gy0.jpg
I'm going to use this styrene scale diamond plate I have on the bottom and sides of the main plate to fill the gap and look more scale.
So, what do you guys think so far?

I made a motor mount and improved the swivel thingy today. Motor mount, again, is made out of old gen1 parts (o so useful :) ). The swivel (gen1 motor mount) I made adjustableby threading a hole I made and putting a screw in it (works better than fixed styrene, and looks cool 8) ). The rest of my time was wasted by making an rc4wd type gear reduction unit, just for fun (evo truck parts).

Motor mount:
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/2774/jeepupdate109vv8.jpg
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/7519/jeepupdate110ov6.jpg
Swivel (fuzzy pics, sorry)
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/6233/jeepupdate107bs4.jpg
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/9025/jeepupdate108qi9.jpg
Gearbox I wasted so much time on
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/3638/jeepupdate106ng1.jpg
My apologies for the crappy pics. It's hard to get good lighting inside when it's dark out.

**END OF TRANSFER**

**UPDATE!!! (real one):
I wasn't liking the torque from the 180 motor. I switched back to the servo and took xmodification's advice. It took FOREVER to make/set up a jig to get the servo horn on and drill a larger hole in the pinion. I think the bigger gear was a 48t or 60t and I know the small one is a 12t, so it should go about 4x (or more) faster.
Anyway, here's what I got so far:
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/3019/jeepservo21pz3.jpg
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/1672/jeepservo22dc5.jpg
I already test-drove it.... it has enough torque and speed to do whatever I want :D There's also enough room to make some sort of interior! http://www.beatyourtruck.com/forum/images/smilies/crazyhf1.gif


Now go crazy.

stang_racer
03-11-2008, 02:28 PM
lools good, is it any faster than in the first vid???

CUSTOM
03-11-2008, 02:30 PM
Yeah, its about 4-5 times faster. I changed the gearing and setup (its going to be a scale crawler.... lol).

stang_racer
03-11-2008, 02:32 PM
sweet stuff hope it comes out great in the end!!!! keep everyone updated eh???

Donziikid
03-11-2008, 03:48 PM
Looking great, Custom. :)

XMODification
03-11-2008, 03:58 PM
Nice work on getting everything in place so neatly! Are you going to use those small batteries that you had before? If you do you could raise the board and put them underneath of it - I think it will still leave some sort of room for a mock interior too. Here's a suggestion: maybe you could also cover up the electonics and do the interior like from the dash up (similar to what I did for my covertible camaro and G35)- you might have to glue the door on and then they'll be able to see rthe mock interior through the windows.

stangdude94
03-11-2008, 04:22 PM
wow

thats awesome

like how much total time did u put into it

mustanglover
03-11-2008, 04:29 PM
sweet man! i remember looking at your videos or its coming together. i really love how you laid every thing out, it looks very professional. so you never used the mr-01 diff? but you should lock the trucks difs for better traction.

xmodificationer
03-11-2008, 05:06 PM
Freaking Another God!!!!! Amazing!!!!

fordman239
03-11-2008, 05:45 PM
dude, that thing i sick, i love it, but why did you use 2 jeep kits? just wondering, but yeah, u should enter that in the comp when ur done.

stang_racer
03-11-2008, 05:57 PM
ford man lol read the box dude its a 2in1 kit

theoriganalRiD3R1967
03-11-2008, 06:07 PM
real nice man, your hard work paid off, that black color on the jeep looks so good too leave it the way it is, do you have room for any lights?

blue504life
03-11-2008, 08:18 PM
nice project, looks good, I wanted to make one of these but I wouldn't have put it on a custom chassis, would it have fit on a truck chassis?

Donziikid
03-11-2008, 08:24 PM
nice project, looks good, I wanted to make one of these but I wouldn't have put it on a custom chassis, would it have fit on a truck chassis?

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/5697/jeepcj3hn5.gif

I'd say no, it wouldn't fit on a regular truck chassis. The body is too short.

texan_idiot25
03-11-2008, 08:52 PM
Yeah, its about 4-5 times faster. I changed the gearing and setup (its going to be a scale crawler.... lol).
Scale crawling speeds are sub 1mph :lol: Courses might take awhile.

This is a really clean looking install so far, right on CUSTOM. Good to see you still in this ish too. :lol:

CUSTOM
03-13-2008, 12:25 AM
Thanks everyone! Nothing new. I didn't have time to work on it today, but I will tomorrow. In the meantime, here are some teasers:
http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/7604/jeepteaser1ud1.jpg
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/5986/jeepteaser2qe7.jpg
Also, the stuff I will use to make it scale-er
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3329/jeepteaser3xj5.jpg
Yup. 1/24th scale diamond plate. I'm also going to be making other little things with the material I used to make the roll bar. See ya tomorrow! :p

Surgeon
03-13-2008, 12:29 AM
Great project so far, very cool stuff.

TheB1GDude
03-13-2008, 12:30 AM
Very cool man! Really like what you've done with that.....

CUSTOM
03-13-2008, 11:56 PM
You guys have no idea how long it takes to fabricate roll cages, or do you?
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/107/rollcage1jp9.jpg
The "iffy" diamond plate panels. Ya or nay?
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/1249/rollcage2tm5.jpg
Tire rack thing.... thoughts?
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/1452/rollcage3ry2.jpg
No video yet, I still have to tweak the drivetrain. Until then, what do you think? Keep or trash the pannels, skid-bar? (whatever you wana call it), Winch? Please help me out here!

stang_racer
03-14-2008, 12:06 AM
i say keep them but get some pics of it in better light so that we can see if there is a realistic look to those panels agaist the black, and i cant really tell if its gloss or flat witch is it??? i think that a gloss would go better with the planels imo

texan_idiot25
03-14-2008, 04:17 PM
Keep the crusher corners, I dig them.

Most members here have never seen a custom roll cage built... :lol:, guess they don't.

Donziikid
03-14-2008, 04:40 PM
Yay to both the tire rack and the crusher panels.

Good stuff, Custom. Keep it up! :)

color0
03-14-2008, 07:47 PM
The more bells and whistles the better. Add that winch. :D It looks great so far Custom, like I said on the other forum even the joints look pretty convincing as welds. That's attention to detail for ya. ;)

Stampedekid
03-14-2008, 09:33 PM
Awesome!!! I say the tire rack idea is awesome! The whole thing is amazing!

CUSTOM
03-14-2008, 11:36 PM
More progress!

I de-bugged the drivetrain with some gen1 parts (as usual), and used a ball bearing in it too to keep things smooth. I guess this means I owe you guys a video. I'll try to get one tonight or tomorrow morning.
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/6625/tweak1br0.jpg
Steering thingy
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/152/tweak2ju8.jpg
Further roll cage progress:
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/4393/tweak3ft9.jpg
Final color? (Olive Drab clear coated)
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/7955/tweak4qt6.jpg
I may make it look like a rusty, old beater, or a high-tech, clean, crawling machine........ Im leaning toward clean.

Tomorrow I'm going to a rock-crawling meet for 1/10 scale. There will be many people there, so I'll be able to show off and take a few pics. :wink:

stang_racer
03-15-2008, 12:11 AM
i say you go for a clean look!!!! not really diggin the front dimond plates, but over all again an amazing rig!!!!!

4G63punk
03-15-2008, 03:15 AM
Looks awesome man! I like your drivetrain setup. Hopefully its way better and lowers the gear ratios alot! lol

CUSTOM
03-15-2008, 12:03 PM
Got your 30 second video
Jeep Test 2
More pics:
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/4196/bling1ow5.jpg
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/7697/bling2bm6.jpg
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/103/bling3ft0.jpg
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/9885/bling4lv9.jpg
I think I might need a new servo.... this one is going crazy! :shock:

fieldfairy2
03-15-2008, 12:17 PM
wow. This is so cool. i like it a lot. Nice chassis and drivetrain setup. I thought you said the jeep is 4-5 times faster? o well still like it. Maybe it is the servo.

CUSTOM
03-15-2008, 01:04 PM
Thanks! It is 4-5 times faster lol. Bet you can't imagine it going any slower....

Stampedekid
03-15-2008, 01:04 PM
Cool. The guys at the 1/10 meet will be in shock.