kind of sad...

[firebird999]

did anyone else notice the similarities between the new lancer's front end, and that of the scion tc? if you ask me that car is just slowly dying away.
http://www.tuningnews.net/news/061211/mitsubishi-lancer-2007.jpg
http://news.windingroad.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/01-2008-scion-tc.gif

and the rear looks like a family man sedan.

http://www.motorpasion.com/images/2006/12/Mitsubishi_Lancer_2008-6.jpg

[TheB1GDude]

Did anyone else notice that new Evo is really really ugly!

http://www.thetorquereport.com/2008_mitsubishi_lancer_evolution_x_image009.jpg

And the front end of that looks like it was sculpted by driving it into a wall!

[Surgeon]

I don't mind the front of the evo, but it would make a better looking coupe...

The rear taillights bother me, they look like a hyundai.

[fordman239]

i liked the 2 door lancer's way better. they had a much sleeker look. oh wait, that was by dodge.
http://oldcarandtruckpictures.com/Chrysler/1962DodgeLancer1702DoorSedan-a4.jpg








but ya, the new evo's look as ugly so words cant describe. the best evo was when they first came out.

[Lucky7]

I like the front end of both cars. :)

[Surgeon]

but ya, the new evo's look as ugly so words cant describe. the best evo was when they first came out.

When they first came out they were very plain...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d1/1993_Lancer_Evolution1.jpg

They looked like an economy car. The evo 5 was my all time favorite, it had a hard-edge track appeal IMO.

http://tadauto.at.infoseek.co.jp/lautolibre-img600x450-1164635776evo560471.jpg

[TheB1GDude]

Yeap I'd say Evo 5 is my personal favorite followed by the 7...

[fordman239]

the evo 8 wasnt too bad.

http://www.streetdreams.org/photo/data/530/medium/1lancer_evo_rhevo_f10_19inch_3.jpg

[Surgeon]

Yeah, but you said the first one was your favorite....


Yeap I'd say Evo 5 is my personal favorite followed by the 7...

The evo5 has the design appeal of a bmw, square hard lines and rounded fender flares, but it lacks the luxury of the BMW, which I like. The front bumper has those large aggressive air dams and fog lights that set it apart from the rest.

[fordman239]

the first one is my favcorite, but i said the evo 8 wasnt too bad either.

[civic_guy]

I don't mind the front of the evo, but it would make a better looking coupe...

The rear taillights bother me, they look like a hyundai.

That's because Hyundai is a Conglomerant of Mitsubishi Corp.


The Evo X looks great imo. Except for the taillights. And I really don't see a similarity between the TC and Lancer. Their front ends are totally different. The headlights aren't even the same shape and the TC's front end has soft lines not like the hardlines sported by the Evo/Lancer

The Evo X does look better than the new STI though. The new STI looks like the lovechild of the Mazda 3 and the Corolla. haha. Its a beast no doubt...but I'm not a fan of hatches.

[Surgeon]

That's because Hyundai is a Conglomerant of Mitsubishi Corp.


The Evo X looks great imo. Except for the taillights. And I really don't see a similarity between the TC and Lancer. Their front ends are totally different. The headlights aren't even the same shape and the TC's front end has soft lines not like the hardlines sported by the Evo/Lancer

The Evo X does look better than the new STI though. The new STI looks like the lovechild of the Mazda 3 and the Corolla. haha. Its a beast no doubt...but I'm not a fan of hatches.


I concur, the taillights are deffinately crappy and cheap looking. The Sti would be a better looking 3 door than 5...

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/thesurgeongeneral/subcoupe3.jpg

the first one is my favcorite, but i said the evo 8 wasnt too bad either.

Seriously dude, lay off a little....

http://www.appscout.com/images/spam%20boy.jpg

[SPR]

did anyone else notice the similarities between the new lancer's front end, and that of the scion tc? if you ask me that car is just slowly dying away.

and the rear looks like a family man sedan.


they dont look anything alike... and it IS a family sedan....

i liked the 2 door lancer's way better. they had a much sleeker look. oh wait, that was by dodge.

dodge is mitsubishi lol.



And I really don't see a similarity between the TC and Lancer. Their front ends are totally different. The headlights aren't even the same shape and the TC's front end has soft lines not like the hardlines sported by the Evo/Lancer.

couldnt of said it better. they looking nothing alike except maybe a TINY bit in the curves of the grill thats about it.

[civic_guy]

couldnt of said it better. they looking nothing alike except maybe a TINY bit in the curves of the grill thats about it.

Yeah the grill is the only thing that's even remotely similar...then again a lot of cars grills look similar so its nothing new.

[Stampedekid]

I concur, the taillights are deffinately crappy and cheap looking. The Sti would be a better looking 3 door than 5...

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/thesurgeongeneral/subcoupe3.jpg



Seriously dude, lay off a little....

http://www.appscout.com/images/spam%20boy.jpg

Haha, nice. Anyhow, the new Evo looks like $h!*! The 5 was my favorite, looked most like a rally car. The Evo 8 wasn't too bad, looked too ricer to me.

[REDisFASTER]

Evo 5 body-style is probably the most popular Evo out there... Fast on the streets, and looks like its ready to tear up gravel roads! It looks so aggressive, at the same time, the whole body-style flows. The new Evo X... The rear end is so flat, the tail lights are too small and too high... The front end looks like its ready to vomit some engine sludge all over your driveway...

As for my favorite Lan Evo, the Evo 3 is my favorite, followed by an Evo 6 Tommi Mäkinen Edition.

Subaru needs to bring in a a Petter Solberg Edition Impreza... That would be sweet.

[Donziikid]

Although I'm not a fan of Mitsu's, the Evolution VIII (http://www.usminiclub.net/images/Lancer_EVO_VIII.jpg) will always be my favorite of their line of Evolutions.

[civic_guy]

Although I'm not a fan of Mitsu's, the Evolution VIII (http://www.usminiclub.net/images/Lancer_EVO_VIII.jpg) will always be my favorite of their line of Evolutions.

Evo IX > Evo VIII

I don't like that plastic crap in the center of the Evo VIII grill. The Evo IX MR is where its at!! :D

[monsterhunter]

Evo IX > Evo VIII

I don't like that plastic crap in the center of the Evo VIII grill. The Evo IX MR is where its at!! :D
yea i would have to agree with that but the Evo VIII is not that bad at all, there s a kid at my high school that has one but he messed it up and too the wing off the back and it doesn't look at good. and the Evo V that is a nice little car also very aggressive and looks like its ready to rally race IMO best three Evo's they made.

[xmodificationer]

Evo VIII MR FTW!!! then the V.... Yea The Evo X is just like, well like how the B1Gdude said, its looks like they sculpted the front by crashing into a wall

[imnotmikal]

dodge is mitsubishi lol.

What you smoking? I would like some please.
Dodge is owned by Chrysler.
Mistubishi is its own parent group.
Dodge/Chrysler is from is USA.
Mitsubishi is from Japan.

Anyway, I think the Evo's are ugly, my fav being the 5.

[suicide_star]

the new evo really doesn't look that bad guys, at least they did away with some of the rice appeal and don't have a 2 ft wing in the back. the front end looks pretty mean, the only reason it doesn't look so sporty from what i can see is that the wheels are rather small, the stance if a little high, and the mirrors, doorhandles and window trim are all black plastic, if all this were the same color as the car it would make a huge difference believe it or not...lol i just noticed that if somebody covered up the front end of it and i had to guess what car it was, i'd probably say a focus

[REDisFASTER]

What you smoking? I would like some please.
Dodge is owned by Chrysler.
Mistubishi is its own parent group.
Dodge/Chrysler is from is USA.
Mitsubishi is from Japan.

Anyway, I think the Evo's are ugly, my fav being the 5.

Chysler/Dodge owns a good portion of Mitsubishi. Much like Ford owns a portion of Mazda. Only difference is that Dodge/Chrysler doesn't own a big enough portion of Mitsubishi compared to how much Ford does of Mazda.

Oh, and good news for Canadians (about time :mad:)

http://lancerevolution.ca/

Lan Evo X will be in Canada!

Still, I'd rather buy an Impreza STi over a Lan Evo. If a company is going to serve America, but overlook its closest neighbor, why support that group?

Subaru has been in Canada since the 80's (may be 70's?), as well, they've been providing us with excellent vehicles. Why is it that NOW that Mitsu finally sheds a light to Canadians?

[monsterhunter]

Chysler/Dodge owns a good portion of Mitsubishi. Much like Ford owns a portion of Mazda. Only difference is that Dodge/Chrysler doesn't own a big enough portion of Mitsubishi compared to how much Ford does of Mazda.

yup :nod: thats why theres the dodge stealth if you ever noticed looks a lot like a 3000gt but yea back on topic i don't think the
Evo VIII and VIX weren't ricey IMO just ready to rally.

[REDisFASTER]

yup :nod: thats why theres the dodge stealth if you ever noticed looks a lot like a 3000gt but yea back on topic i don't think the
Evo VIII and VIX weren't ricey IMO just ready to rally.

Agreed. The new Evo doesn't look like its up to the task of some offroad driving. It looks too fragile. It looks like a lot of stuff is going to fall off if you clip the front bumper going too fast through a crest (crest = WRC lingo for hill. Opposite of crest is a trough (pronounced: tr-off), and its basically a dip in the road)

[taiwanesekid05]

I noticed the somewhat similarites with the Scion tC and the Saturn Ion.

http://aftermarket-unlimited.com/shop/images/products/thumb_Scicon-TC-432N-web.jpg
http://www.trustmymechanic.com/auto-repair/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/427b.jpg

[REDisFASTER]

Check the circle-in-red backing lights on the 4-door Cobalts as well.

http://us.autos1.yimg.com/img.autos.yahoo.com/ag/chevrolet_cobalt_sssedan_2007_exterior_6_346x270.j pg

[SPR]

What you smoking? I would like some please.
Dodge is owned by Chrysler.
Mistubishi is its own parent group.
Dodge/Chrysler is from is USA.
Mitsubishi is from Japan.

you really wanna argue about that? your going to lose lol.

just like toyota is jap but its made in america. it has nothing to do with where it comes from, or where its built, to decide who owns it.



Chysler/Dodge owns a good portion of Mitsubishi. Much like Ford owns a portion of Mazda. Only difference is that Dodge/Chrysler doesn't own a big enough portion of Mitsubishi compared to how much Ford does of Mazda.

thank you, glad someone knows what they are talking about.

yup :nod: thats why theres the dodge stealth if you ever noticed looks a lot like a 3000gt.

classic example. same with the mitsu raider pickup... same thing as a dakota basically.

[4G63punk]

Screw all those new cars and future cars, vehicles, etc. watever. The Evolution IX is the best. I own one and I love it. Best machine ever built. Dont even waste your time and money on those cheap crappy new cars.

[SPR]

Screw all those new cars and future cars, vehicles, etc. watever. The Evolution IX is the best. I own one and I love it. Best machine ever built. Dont even waste your time and money on those cheap crappy new cars.

i have to back this up 100%... i wouldnt trade my 06 sti in for a 08 anything...

[xmodsnut]

Did anyone else notice that new Evo is really really ugly!

http://www.thetorquereport.com/2008_mitsubishi_lancer_evolution_x_image009.jpg

And the front end of that looks like it was sculpted by driving it into a wall!
looks like the front end came off of a VW golf GTI, crossed with a new 08 focus, crossed with an older nissan skyline GTR.

[redrkt]

That's because Hyundai is a Korean Company is not a Conglomerete of Mitsubishi Corp. Hyundai is actually owned by the Korean Government just like KIA is.


The Evo X looks great imo. Except for the taillights. And I really don't see a similarity between the TC and Lancer. Their front ends are totally different. The headlights aren't even the same shape and the TC's front end has soft lines not like the hardlines sported by the Evo/Lancer The EVO X has not even gone into production yet SO how can you compare it to anything? Mitsubishi has taken all the good stuff from the EVO IX and incorporated it into the new Lancer. The EVO X will not even be available until mid to late '08 if not an '09 model.

The Evo X does look better than the new STI though. The new STI looks like the lovechild of the Mazda 3 and the Corolla. haha. Its a beast no doubt...but I'm not a fan of hatches.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Knvictd View Post
What you smoking? I would like some please.
Dodge is owned by Chrysler.
Mistubishi is its own parent group.
Dodge/Chrysler is from is USA.
Mitsubishi is from Japan.
you really wanna argue about that? your going to lose lol.

just like toyota is jap but its made in america. it has nothing to do with where it comes from, or where its built, to decide who owns it.



Quote:
Originally Posted by REDisFASTER View Post
Chysler/Dodge owns a good portion of Mitsubishi. Much like Ford owns a portion of Mazda. Only difference is that Dodge/Chrysler doesn't own a big enough portion of Mitsubishi compared to how much Ford does of Mazda. actually Dodge and Mitsubishi have a Manufacturing Agreement with each other (or used to) to import cars from Mitsubishi under the Dodge branding to get around Trade Tariffs and to help Mitsu get a foothold over here so that they could import under their own name. Doge has been working with Mitsu since the mid '70's to import their cars under the Dodge/Plymouth(now defunct) name.
thank you, glad someone knows what they are talking about.

Quote:
Originally Posted by monsterhunter View Post
yup thats why theres the dodge stealth if you ever noticed looks a lot like a 3000gt. They are the same car, just with different trim, Just like the Impala and the Buick Roadmaster are the same car just different trim and facia to fit each divisions style.
classic example. same with the mitsu raider pickup... same thing as a dakota basically The Raider is NOT the same as the Dakota!! The Dakota is built off the same chassis as the Durango. The two have NOTHING in common.

[imnotmikal]

:( You guys make me feel like a *******... But now I know!
Woohoo for finally knowing! :lol:

I don't usually follow tuners. I'm an All-American muscle kind of guy. And trucks. Show trucks.

[civic_guy]

DEAR Redkrt,

Mitsubishi is the single largest share holder in Hyundai Motors. Mitsubishi and Hyundai have a joint venture to purchase Russian Lumber. Hyundai IS infact a conglomerate of Mistsubishi Corp.

This info was found here:
Headline: Mitsubishi Connection with Hyundai
Source: Nikkei Weekly
Date: 9/11/92


The EVO X is already being sold in Japan as of Oct 07. It should be on sale in the US Jan 08 (right now). Infact, there is already a TV spot advertising for the Lancer AND EVO X here in the US. I saw it the other night on TV and I'm sure when I get off work I can find it on youtube. So YES that IS the actual car.

LOOK Redkrt!!! The Japanese have already modified a Lancer Evo X for D1!! BUT WAIT! If you notice in the background there's a Red one too!!

http://carview-img02.bmcdn.jp/carlife/images/UserCarPhoto/751449/p6.jpg

[jimmythekid1]

DEAR Redkrt,

Mitsubishi is the single largest share holder in Hyundai Motors. Mitsubishi and Hyundai have a joint venture to purchase Russian Lumber. Hyundai IS infact a conglomerate of Mistsubishi Corp.

This info was found here:
Headline: Mitsubishi Connection with Hyundai
Source: Nikkei Weekly
Date: 9/11/92


The EVO X is already being sold in Japan as of Oct 07. It should be on sale in the US Jan 08 (right now). Infact, there is already a TV spot advertising for the Lancer AND EVO X here in the US. I saw it the other night on TV and I'm sure when I get off work I can find it on youtube. So YES that IS the actual car.

LOOK Redkrt!!! The Japanese have already modified a Lancer Evo X for D1!! BUT WAIT! If you notice in the background there's a Red one too!!

http://carview-img02.bmcdn.jp/carlife/images/UserCarPhoto/751449/p6.jpg

well that is short of right I used to work for Hyundai now they are all Hyundai, when they first started they got all of their drive trains from mitsu, but now they make and design all of their own stuff. a lot of tier technology is redisiged mitsu stuff, however they still buy lots of stuff from other companies like Borg Warner, getrag and so on. Just like all automotive companies they share and buy other technology since it can be cheaper then inventing it there self.

[civic_guy]

well that is short of right I used to work for Hyundai now they are all Hyundai, when they first started they got all of their drive trains from mitsu, but now they make and design all of their own stuff. a lot of tier technology is redisiged mitsu stuff, however they still buy lots of stuff from other companies like Borg Warner, getrag and so on. Just like all automotive companies they share and buy other technology since it can be cheaper then inventing it there self.

You have to remember though I'm not refering to them as conglomorates in just the automotive industry...they have their feet wet in other industries as well.

[SPR]

The Raider is NOT the same as the Dakota!! The Dakota is built off the same chassis as the Durango. The two have NOTHING in common.


you've gotta be kidding me lol. you really wanna go there too? you guys are going to learn not to argue with me when it comes to cars. Cars are my world. my world revolves around cars. id marry a car if i could....

quote...

"The Mitsubishi Raider might be a Dodge Dakota beneath the sheetmetal but I'm certainly not going to make mention of it."

"The Raider shares its box-frame chassis; its suspension and drivetrains; most of its engine range; its transmissions, its basic interior architecture; the structural bodywork and the glazing with this vehicle. The only real differences are to the external sheetmetal"

unquote....


your Really going to try and tell me, that This..

http://images.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/naias_2005/0501_03+2006_Mitsubishi_Raider+Front_Passenger_Sid e_View_Driving.jpg

and THIS

http://www.automedia.com/NewCarBuyersGuide/photos/2006/Dodge/Dakota%20Quad%20Cab/Pickup_Truck/2006_Dodge_DakotaQuadCab_ext_1.jpg


are NOT the same truck? get real cabs are like 100% the same lol. that should be all the proof you need to know they are the exact same truck. but if its not, well then you have the quotes up above to show you other wise.

[jimmythekid1]

You have to remember though I'm not refering to them as conglomorates in just the automotive industry...they have their feet wet in other industries as well.

you've gotta be kidding me lol. you really wanna go there too? you guys are going to learn not to argue with me when it comes to cars. Cars are my world. my world revolves around cars. id marry a car if i could....

quote...

"The Mitsubishi Raider might be a Dodge Dakota beneath the sheetmetal but I'm certainly not going to make mention of it."

"The Raider shares its box-frame chassis; its suspension and drivetrains; most of its engine range; its transmissions, its basic interior architecture; the structural bodywork and the glazing with this vehicle. The only real differences are to the external sheetmetal"

unquote....


your Really going to try and tell me, that This..

http://images.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/naias_2005/0501_03+2006_Mitsubishi_Raider+Front_Passenger_Sid e_View_Driving.jpg

and THIS

http://www.automedia.com/NewCarBuyersGuide/photos/2006/Dodge/Dakota%20Quad%20Cab/Pickup_Truck/2006_Dodge_DakotaQuadCab_ext_1.jpg


are NOT the same truck? get real cabs are like 100% the same lol. that should be all the proof you need to know they are the exact same truck. but if its not, well then you have the quotes up above to show you other wise.

Hyundai as in most companies have their hands in every thing freight ships are they biggest.

Also take and chrysler and start ripping it apart most of the parts are from mitsu you can tell by the symbols. When that new mitsu truck came out all the reviews I read said it was build on the same platform as the dakota.

[civic_guy]

poor redkrt is getting pwned in this thread http://houston-imports.com/forums/images/smilies/yllol.gif

[SPR]

even the turbos on subarus are made by mitsubishi lol.

how sad is it to think the STi's biggest competitor is basically being powered by there competitor. whats this world coming too... :roll:

jimmythekid1, thats why you shouldnt speak when you have no clue what your talking about. lol. you end up lookin like a fool.

[texan_idiot25]

Yup, and the Stealth, Lazer, and 3000GT are one in the same as well.

Whoopty Doo!!!

GM owned a large stake in Subi when the last WRX came out. When the newest came out (that fugly jelly bean hatch back), Toyota now owns that large stake.

Hmmm...

[Most_Wanted]

Yup, and the Stealth, Lazer, and 3000GT are one in the same as well.

Whoopty Doo!!!

GM owned a large stake in Subi when the last WRX came out. When the newest came out (that fugly jelly bean hatch back), Toyota now owns that large stake.

Hmmm...

Don't you mean the Lazer is the same as a Talon? (I know you know that, just giving you hard time) :D

[texan_idiot25]

I knew the Lazer had seemed odd on that list.

Conquest and Starion.

Eagle, Eclipse, Lazer, etc etc

Chryslerbishi

[jimmythekid1]

even the turbos on subarus are made by mitsubishi lol.

how sad is it to think the STi's biggest competitor is basically being powered by there competitor. whats this world coming too... :roll:

jimmythekid1, thats why you shouldnt speak when you have no clue what your talking about. lol. you end up lookin like a fool.

you looking like the fool what the hell did I say that I did not know what I was talking about? Plus I don't play the I know more then you game because then I would be a fool.

[texan_idiot25]

SPR, watch what your sayin' man. He didn't say anything even remotely wrong. Considering he is an ASE Certified mechanic, I'd suggest you choose your battles wisely.

[jimmythekid1]

SPR, watch what your sayin' man. He didn't say anything even remotely wrong. Considering he is an ASE Certified mechanic, I'd suggest you choose your battles wisely.

Well I've calmed down bit this is just the internet after all he's not even worth the time.

[civic_guy]

Well I've calmed down bit this is just the internet after all he's not even worth the time.

Yeah i read your posts...and you didn't say anything incorrect :-?

[taiwanesekid05]

Toyota owns part of a home building company... Just thought I put that out there.

[civic_guy]

Toyota owns part of a home building company... Just thought I put that out there.

Like I said before earlier in the thread. Companies such as Mitsubishi are just companies who have their name on a variety of products, cars, tvs, lumber, etc etc.

[REDisFASTER]

I've got an '02 Dakota, but most of the bolts that I've had to work with werent even imperial! They were metric!

My '99 Mazda Protegé, as well as my old '91 Nissan Stanza had alternators made by Mitsubishi :p

[texan_idiot25]

Most late model cars are using metric bolts. Even my '90 Firebird's headlight motors (argh) use metric.

[SPR]

you looking like the fool what the hell did I say that I did not know what I was talking about? Plus I don't play the I know more then you game because then I would be a fool.


**** calm down guys, first off i quoted the wrong person, my bad. i ment to quote civic_guy... and also all i was doing was agreeing with his comment about redkrt. not saying civic guy/jimmy was the idiot getting owned....

also, i have to laugh when you say, oh he is ASE certified, dont fight with him. lmao. working at a subaru dealer ship, a lot of techs dont know ****. they know how to turn a wrench, pull bolts out and put things back together correctly. you start asking them technical questions and they are as dumb as a sack of rocks.... so dont go thinking just because someone is ASE cert... they know everything.

the "master transmission guy" at my suby dealership, cant even tell the difference between a wrx 5 spd and a sti 6 spd by looking at it.

[texan_idiot25]

I can't vouch for every fool in a dealership, or the validity of your claim, but 90% of ASE mechanics, pretty much are very solid on their facts.

But I can vouch for Jimmy's know-how.

Sadly, though you insult the Subi-dealership guy on not knowing the difference in transmissions, you have troubles with hitting the right button on a forum. Way to go hypocrisy!

[SPR]

I can't vouch for every fool in a dealership, or the validity of your claim, but 90% of ASE mechanics, pretty much are very solid on their facts.

But I can vouch for Jimmy's know-how.

Sadly, though you insult the Subi-dealership guy on not knowing the difference in transmissions, you have troubles with hitting the right button on a forum. Way to go hypocrisy!

id like to know how you got your figured of 90%, and how acurate it really is lol. guesstimates dont mean much. im not saying every ASE guy is a idiot. and i never said jimmy was an idiot, just saying... ive met quite a few that are. and ive met a lot in my travels to many dealerships and talking with techs. while the younger kids tend to know more in general about cars, the older folks who just went to school to pass the test so they can get paid more pretty much only know how to turn a wrench. in my side of the world... i bet over half know how to turn a wrench. the tranny guy was just one example how the head transmission guy, who is known as 'the best' over here cant tell the difference between the 2 trans he works on teh most....

as for me hitting the wrong button, please shut up lol, like you've never pushed the wrong button before, or hit the wrong key. has nothing to do with being a hypocrit. i didnt go to college to learn to push the right button.